It's not Pellers..It's not even the team..

[birchwoodgingerste]

Can you gaurantee a different outcome?

Would your chosen back 4 have won us the game even if the rest of the team had played as poorly as they did?

Yestersay wasnt about the odd wrong player or frmation, it was about them all just not giving a fuck and virtually strollng the game with no movement onthe ball and certainly nothing off it as part f a team defending as a unit.

Disagree it was all about the wrong team simple as . You can't play 2 attacking fullbacks and a central midfield with yaya and fern meaning essentially 1 holding. and a player who's slower than a snail against vardy . So all Leicester had to do was sit deep play long balls into the empty channels or fast counter attack and outnumber us on the break.That formation was suicudal.put it this way if we would have played with the two ferns central and sagna and clichy as the full backs we wudnt have been so open.

 

[hilts]

Can you gaurantee a different outcome?

Would your chosen back 4 have won us the game even if the rest of the team had played as poorly as they did?

Yestersay wasnt about the odd wrong player or frmation, it was about them all just not giving a fuck and virtually strollng the game with no movement onthe ball and certainly nothing off it as part f a team defending as a unit.

Of course I couldn't guarantee a different outcome, with this argument we would never question anything

I said in the pre match thread I would have picked sagna and clichy yesterday, be honest who would you have gone for?

 

[Rolee]

I wouldn't regard a 0-0 as having got it right! It might well have been that a central defender had a better game on the day, a better game than either of them had yesterday, or Vardy and Mahrez had an off day. Too many variables in a game of football to come up with an all-inclusive single reason for something. A 0-0 away to top of the league could have been a good result were it followed up with a couple of decent results which emphasised that Manuel was addressing the main issues that seem apparent to anyone watching the performances. He isn't.

They were restricted to just one chance of note in 90 minutes and that came from an individual error from Dinho letting Vardy have a one one one with Hart. It was obvious watching that he had a plan to restrict Vardy and it was executed brilliantly. But let's ignore that as it doesn't suit the argument.

 

[hilts]

Bang on mate. Bottom line is whatever mistakes Pellegrini has made, and he's made plenty, we would still probably be 10/12 points better off without the insane injury records of Silva, Vinny, and Kun alone, never mind all the injuries around those two we have suffered.

So we can only compete if two of our most injury prone players are not injured? Haha well done, carry on

 

[Centurions]

What I saw yesterday was a team that didn't have the legs to compete with Leicester, is was the managers job to pick a team that could cope with that or at least play in a way to nullify it, what you don't do is fill the team with slow players, what effort could mdm put in to make himself quicker, or kolorov or toure or zabba

We may have got beat yesterday anyhow but at least give the players a chance, look at those two first goals and ask which players got done and if you would have picked them to start with

You do if that's all that the injuries have left you with.

 

[IanBishopsHaircut]

So we can only compete if two of our most injury prone players are not injured? Haha well done, carry on

Have you actually seen our injuries over the course of this season? It's shocking..and not just to two players..it's right across the squad

If anyone needs blaming it's our physio staff

 

[hilts]

Disagree it was all about the wrong team simple as . You can't play 2 attacking fullbacks and a central midfield with yaya and fern meaning essentially 1 holding. and a player who's slower than a snail against vardy . So all Leicester had to do was sit deep play long balls into the empty channels or fast counter attack and outnumber us on the counter attack. That formation was suicudal.put it this way if we would have played with the two ferns central sagna and clichy full backs we wudnt have been so open.

The thing is fella pretty much everyone was saying this in the pre match thread, only a couple said don't sorry about Leicester and like our numpty of a manager they were wrong

 

[Rolee]

So we can only compete if two of our most injury prone players are not injured? Haha well done, carry on

We are competing. We're still in with a shout to win the league in February, that's competing.

It's been a lot worse than just two players, we've had 52 separate injuries, that fucks up continuity, momentum etc.

 

[BillyShears]

So we can only compete if two of our most injury prone players are not injured? Haha well done, carry on

Are you thick mate? It's just that nowhere in my post did I say we need those two "to compete" - what I actually said was that we'd be 10/12 points better off without injuries to those two. Hope that helps and simplifies things sufficiently for you.

 

[Danamy]

Check the pre match thread and see how many posters would have played kolorov,mdm,ota and zabba in defence, the whole fucking forum wouldn't have played that back line and I ain't even touching on yaya

Yeah you're right, in an ideal world AK, MDM and PZ probably wouldn't start without the injury situation we've currently got but that's the point everyone is choosing to ignore.

 

[City_Sean]

The truth is its a bit of everything right now mate.

Pellers is stubborn as fuck but all managers are the same.

Injuries have dealt us a hefty blow but its a squad game and we have to find a way of coping.

Players have just gone missing in action. Great when its going well but when its time to roll up the sleeves and do some dirty work, plenty just dont want to know and that applies to our goldn cows.

This summer is all about change and the next step and it shouldnt just stop at the manager. The squad needs a re build and players who will do what is asked of them.

Our players are perennial bottlers who have the arrogance to shirk their responsibilities. They play shite because they think they're better than everyone they play so feel like they don't need to work hard.

If we put in 50% of the energy that Leicester did, we'd be top.

 

[hilts]

Have you actually seen our injuries over the course of this season? It's shocking..and not just to two players..it's right across the squad

If anyone needs blaming it's our physio staff

I have the reply was to the poster saying we would be pissing the league if kompany and Sergio didn't get injured which was quite amusing considering their history with injuries

 

[hgblue]

Yeah you're right, in an ideal world AK, MDM and PZ probably wouldn't start without the injury situation we've currently got but that's the point everyone is choosing to ignore.

People aren't ignoring your point, they're disagreeing with it. The manager had other options yesterday but didn't use them.

 

[hilts]

Yeah you're right, in an ideal world AK, MDM and PZ probably wouldn't start without the injury situation we've currently got but that's the point everyone is choosing to ignore.

He could have left 2 of those out though fella, injuries had nothing to do with that selection

 

[IanBishopsHaircut]

People aren't ignoring your point, they're disagreeing with it. The manager had other options yesterday but didn't use them.

Unless you are part of the back room staff how do you know that?

He certainly didn't have options in central defence

 

[Tim of the Oak]

A lot of fair points have been made. Yes injuries have cost us a lot but they are only part of the story as many have said. To the issues raised I would add:

A) our team is a bit lightweight. We have struggled in the gales at Stoke and some our ageing legs have been found wanting on heavy pitches like yesterday.

B) a reluctance to do the basics. We are playing a bigger, more physical team so why not assign a player to over the near post at set pieces. They might have had a chance with the first and third goals yesterday!

C) a reluctance to put pressure on the referees. Too often it is only the guy who gets clattered who has a word with the ref (Joe being an exception versus Sunderland).

 

[Gordyola]

A fully fit team won win despite the manager Unfortunately the manager doesn't do his job

 

[Jamoid]

I've said it on here before and I'll say it again MP has destroyed Mancini's hard work, we maybe in the running for 4 Trophies buy I believe we will end up with nothing

 

[hgblue]

Unless you are part of the back room staff how do you know that?

He certainly did' have options in central defence

Look, this hand wringing woe is me approach to injuries is a bit pathetic. Compare Leicester's starting eleven to ours. Something like a 200 million pound difference in cost. One side played with passion, were well organised, highly motivated, had a gameplan they believed in, and were desperate to get a result, and then there was us.

 

[Danamy]

People aren't ignoring your point, they're disagreeing with it. The manager had other options yesterday but didn't use them.

He could have left 2 of those out though fella, injuries had nothing to do with that selection

Once again you're both failing to see the bigger picture.
I'm sure he'd loved to pick Sagna and Clichy every week but to do so with our current situation would be naive