It's quiet 10, no apologies! (continued)

[samharris]

How do you KNOW we missed out on Hazard for financial reasons? You don't. You're just guessing.

We can only go on what we read which is that the deal was agreed, City had a 100+ page dossier on Hazard, Hazard had been given a tour of the housing market, Hazard had been at the Etihad for the derby but then the agent demanded massive fees for the transfer that only Chelsea would pay. Perhaps this is not true, NOTHING is known in football for sure so we can only rely on the better newspapers like the Indy and Times who printed this story.

Chelsea raised around £100m as a result of winning the Champions League, they've offloaded a handful of really big earners, that's why they've got money.

Chelsea made less than half of that in prize + TV money - £47million. We made about £21million so the difference was less than Eden Hazard's transfer fee. That's before Oscar, Marin, and the others they're yet to sign (they want a right-back and striker at least). Abramovich was one of the biggest supporters of FFP but despite having better revenue than us they are as much at risk as we are of falling foul to it and just seem to be shrugging their shoulders.

PSG? Doing the same as us but with a better manager in charge!

And again no chance of passing FFP so they don't give a fook about it unlike us.

Trust the manager and the club to know what they're doing at the moment. Far too early to panic.

Really not panicking at all, I'm confident we can win at least one trophy with our current squad. I'm not confident we could successfully compete on four fronts based on last season's evidence though, our squad depth is hugely overrated on Bluemoon. It pales in comparison to Real Madrid's for example.

Winning the Champions League WAS worth £100m to Chelsea.

Their winnings were circa £50m, qualifying for this years Champions League is worth a minimum of another £30m, and they generated another £20m for new sponsorship deals on the back of it.

I agree that our squad depth isn't strong enough. But I'm sure that will be rectified shortly.

And why so sure PSG won't pass FFPR? They will. When the time comes, they will. As will we. As will probably every other "big" team.

We're beginning to sound like rags and Chelsea fans bleating about how unfair it all is with someone else spending more than us! And back in the room...

I think people are miffed at Platinis so called agenda with'big spending City' and lack of it towards PSG tbh...

 

[City Raider]

He was rested for 48 hours.

If he can't handle that then he can fuck off (to AC no odubt fairly soon)

Yep, having played two games for Bosnia the same week. He then started the next four games and did fuck all, how many games does it take for him to get into his rhythmn?

I wish we had "signatures" at times on BM as I would have the above as one.

There is always some Dzeko loon that says he was dropped after scoring 4 whilst they completely ignore it all.

where did I say dropped?

yeah, course i'm a big dzeko 'loon' and I'm from Bosnia

and when I try and be positive about any of our players i suppose that makes me an aguero 'loon' or a toure 'loon'

guilty oh wise one

 

[Soulboy]

He may well have guessed but he was right. Chelsea laid the most money on the table for him and we refused to up the offer we had agreed.

This was simply my point, FFP is making us hesitate. I don't believe for a minute it's a case of Sheikh Mansour turning the taps off, City pursued Hazard extensively for ages and were desperate to sign him. Financial reasons are why we now don't have him and that relates to my original theory, that City are worried by FFP.

We didn't hesitate mate. We could have afforded it 10x over. But City refuse to be played for fools with money now we are at the top of the tree. It was a point of principle. We'd agreed a fee and wages and they took the piss using Chelsea. I hate the **** now. I hope his career goes down the shitter and that Chelsea, whilst having a great squad, fail to utilise it under their less than wonderful manager.

That was precisely my point! Well said that man!

It's a managerial decision as to what we spend now. Nowt to do with FFPR.

 

[LoveCity]

Winning the Champions League WAS worth £100m to Chelsea.

Their winnings were circa £50m, qualifying for this years Champions League is worth a minimum of another £30m, and they generated another £20m for new sponsorship deals on the back of it.

Well I thought you meant prize + TV money alone. We've also qualified for the CL, our PL win will also generate interest for new sponsorships, and we won the Premier League. My point is simply that Chelsea are as much at risk from FFP as we are and just don't seem concerned at all. Cavani could be next through the gates at Stamford Bridge and he'll cost over £30million.

And why so sure PSG won't pass FFPR? They will. When the time comes, they will. As will we. As will probably every other "big" team.

Can you explain how PSG will pass FFPR with it so near? They make very little in revenue, they have only just qualified for the CL for the first time in years, and Ligue 1 is worth next to nothing in TV rights and prize money compared to the Premier League. Swiss Ramble's latest essay length piece is on PSG and suggested they have little chance of meeting UEFA's requirements and will have to be "very persuasive" to convince UEFA that they will find the break-even point. Is there even an Etihad-esque deal out there for PSG to help them along the way?

We're beginning to sound like rags and Chelsea fans bleating about how unfair it all is with someone else spending more than us! And back in the room...

I don't care how much anyone spends, in fact I've always said it's great that Paris will have a successful club again. My point is and has been since the original post that PSG and Chelsea are showing little to no concern for Financial Fair Play while we are. Do they know something we don't? It bothers me that it seems like an obsession to us to comply while clubs like PSG, Chelsea, and Anzhi are spending freely - and I believe it is costing us players Mancini really wanted like Hazard and Silva.

 

[Soulboy]

We can only go on what we read which is that the deal was agreed, City had a 100+ page dossier on Hazard, Hazard had been given a tour of the housing market, Hazard had been at the Etihad for the derby but then the agent demanded massive fees for the transfer that only Chelsea would pay. Perhaps this is not true, NOTHING is known in football for sure so we can only rely on the better newspapers like the Indy and Times who printed this story.



Chelsea made less than half of that in prize + TV money - £47million. We made about £21million so the difference was less than Eden Hazard's transfer fee. That's before Oscar, Marin, and the others they're yet to sign (they want a right-back and striker at least). Abramovich was one of the biggest supporters of FFP but despite having better revenue than us they are as much at risk as we are of falling foul to it and just seem to be shrugging their shoulders.



And again no chance of passing FFP so they don't give a fook about it unlike us.



Really not panicking at all, I'm confident we can win at least one trophy with our current squad. I'm not confident we could successfully compete on four fronts based on last season's evidence though, our squad depth is hugely overrated on Bluemoon. It pales in comparison to Real Madrid's for example.

Winning the Champions League WAS worth £100m to Chelsea.

Their winnings were circa £50m, qualifying for this years Champions League is worth a minimum of another £30m, and they generated another £20m for new sponsorship deals on the back of it.

I agree that our squad depth isn't strong enough. But I'm sure that will be rectified shortly.

And why so sure PSG won't pass FFPR? They will. When the time comes, they will. As will we. As will probably every other "big" team.

We're beginning to sound like rags and Chelsea fans bleating about how unfair it all is with someone else spending more than us! And back in the room...

I think people are miffed at Platinis so called agenda with'big spending City' and lack of it towards PSG tbh...

Have I stumbled on to the Lawrenson and Hansen thread by mistake?

 

[SWP's back]

Yep, having played two games for Bosnia the same week. He then started the next four games and did fuck all, how many games does it take for him to get into his rhythmn?

I wish we had "signatures" at times on BM as I would have the above as one.

There is always some Dzeko loon that says he was dropped after scoring 4 whilst they completely ignore it all.

where did I say dropped?

yeah, course i'm a big dzeko 'loon' and I'm from Bosnia

and when I try and be positive about any of our players i suppose that makes me an aguero 'loon' or a toure 'loon'

guilty oh wise one

I wasn't talking about you strange one. I was talking with another poster about Dzeko fans in general. It just happened to come after I had replied to ealier.

 

[Soulboy]

Winning the Champions League WAS worth £100m to Chelsea.

Their winnings were circa £50m, qualifying for this years Champions League is worth a minimum of another £30m, and they generated another £20m for new sponsorship deals on the back of it.

Well I thought you meant prize + TV money alone. We've also qualified for the CL, our PL win will also generate interest for new sponsorships, and we won the Premier League. My point is simply that Chelsea are as much at risk from FFP as we are and just don't seem concerned at all. Cavani could be next through the gates at Stamford Bridge and he'll cost over £30million.

And why so sure PSG won't pass FFPR? They will. When the time comes, they will. As will we. As will probably every other "big" team.

Can you explain how PSG will pass FFPR with it so near? They make very little in revenue, they have only just qualified for the CL for the first time in years, and Ligue 1 is worth next to nothing in TV rights and prize money compared to the Premier League. Swiss Ramble's latest essay length piece is on PSG and suggested they have little chance of meeting UEFA's requirements and will have to be "very persuasive" to convince UEFA that they will find the break-even point. Is there even an Etihad-esque deal out there for PSG to help them along the way?

We're beginning to sound like rags and Chelsea fans bleating about how unfair it all is with someone else spending more than us! And back in the room...

I don't care how much anyone spends, in fact I've always said it's great that Paris will have a successful club again. My point is and has been since the original post that PSG and Chelsea are showing little to no concern for Financial Fair Play while we are. Do they know something we don't? It bothers me that it seems like an obsession to us to comply while clubs like PSG, Chelsea, and Anzhi are spending freely - and I believe it is costing us players Mancini really wanted like Hazard and Silva.

We're going round in circles here mate.

Who says "Citry are obsessed by FFPR"? The only ones obsessed seem to be on this forum. The club know what they are doing, it's no biggie.

PSG and Chelsea also have few worries. The FFPR is simply a warning shot across the bows for those clubs who spend ludicrously... like Anzi.

PSG will generate millions in sponsorship deals across France as they become the "French team" with the hopes of the nation riding on them.

You answer your own point regards PSG passing FFPR... they will have to be "persuasive". And they will be.

City can still go out and buy whoever they want. They choose not to. If Messi came up for grabs do you not think they'd find the £200m to fund the deal? Of course they would. Seriously, stop worrying about something that is not an issue.

 

[samharris]

Winning the Champions League WAS worth £100m to Chelsea.

Their winnings were circa £50m, qualifying for this years Champions League is worth a minimum of another £30m, and they generated another £20m for new sponsorship deals on the back of it.

I agree that our squad depth isn't strong enough. But I'm sure that will be rectified shortly.

And why so sure PSG won't pass FFPR? They will. When the time comes, they will. As will we. As will probably every other "big" team.

We're beginning to sound like rags and Chelsea fans bleating about how unfair it all is with someone else spending more than us! And back in the room...

I think people are miffed at Platinis so called agenda with'big spending City' and lack of it towards PSG tbh...

Have I stumbled on to the Lawrenson and Hansen thread by mistake?

meaning what excactly ??

 

[BringBackSwales]

Does it not cross your mind that it may actually be the owners who have decided not to spend £100m a year from now on in?

That they might, crazy as it sounds, be looking at City as an investment rather than a charity?

How do you KNOW we missed out on Hazard for financial reasons? You don't. You're just guessing.

Chelsea raised around £100m as a result of winning the Champions League, they've offloaded a handful of really big earners, that's why they've got money. And as a side note, a bit of a slap in the face for all those City fans urging Chelsea on to win the Champions League... it was NEVER going to be a good thing for City!

PSG? Doing the same as us but with a better manager in charge!

Trust the manager and the club to know what they're doing at the moment. Far too early to panic.

bollocks, in my opinion, regarding psg having a better manager

Ancellotti has won the Champions League with AC Milan and he won the Double in his first season at Chelsea in England.

that doesnt necesarilly make him a better manager - he has been around a lot longer than Bobby, not better, in my opinion

 

[mad zab]

bollocks, in my opinion, regarding psg having a better manager

Ancellotti has won the Champions League with AC Milan and he won the Double in his first season at Chelsea in England.

that doesnt necesarilly make him a better manager - he has been around a lot longer than Bobby, not better, in my opinion

FFS Soulboy was talking about when we where first took over and comparing Ancelotti to Hughes and not Mancini!