It's Quiet 17 - Glory Thread

i think city will make an agreement with Bernardo to let him go on a much cheaper deal next year (set at like £50m guaranteed) if he really wants to go and then city put all the money towards Bellingham.

There’s no player I’d accept in Bernardo position except Bellingham. Would be insane to try replace
 
What do u think personally think Ahsan, u think IF Barca get the 80-100m required (thru their economic levers or whatever its called ) - city allow him to go despite their reluctance? OR will city do what we usually don't, tell them to respect their contract, so he is just so important as our midfield engine

Oh they'll sell him. Guardiola hates "sad faces" in the dressing room and in training. If Mendes can find someone to bring 100 million euros they'll take it. But I think it is virtually impossible for Barcelona to reach those sort of figures. I'm massively unimpressed with the public nature of all of this too. They all know the deal, just do it quietly and if the money comes then he gets his move. The very fact that it's so open and Barca are briefing things like "City will sell" suggests that someone is trying to force the issue.
 
it looks like some kind of equity release advert you see on ITV 4.

You are closer than you think…. They are cashing in on an asset over the long term at pretty much it’s value today…. They will probably regret this Because they will lose circa 25 per cent of any upside in the future.
 
Oh they'll sell him. Guardiola hates "sad faces" in the dressing room and in training. If Mendes can find someone to bring 100 million euros they'll take it. But I think it is virtually impossible for Barcelona to reach those sort of figures. I'm massively unimpressed with the public nature of all of this too. They all know the deal, just do it quietly and if the money comes then he gets his move. The very fact that it's so open and Barca are briefing things like "City will sell" suggests that someone is trying to force the issue.

Right on cue the Barca propaganda continues. How this money magically appears

 
And this is the issue, the fear of rejection…

If any player can leave with his head held high, leaving it all out on the pitch, it’s Bernardo….as in life, sometimes you have to let things you love go, before it turns bitter, where I’d imagine we’ve all stayed too long, somewhere or other…

If they can find the money, and he's really unhappy, I wish him all the best. He should go. But first they have to find the money, and the fact that it is supposed to be Barcelona who want him and where he wants to go, makes me very suspicious because we all know their financial situation. If this was PSG or Madrid I don't think it would play out publicly because both those clubs would pay the money. Barcelona and their press are acting like fools, and I wonder if it's at Mendes' behest.
 
My biggest concern is Bernardo's attitude when he returns to pre-season training. He trained badly last pre-season and didn't really get his head together until after the window had closed. If he pitches up like that again it will be tantamount to trying to force a move and would show a real lack of professionalism. The reality is Barcelona's financial situation is well documented. They cannot afford to pay us 100 million euros for him, in fact I'd guess they can't even pay half of that.

I don't particularly like FDJ as a replacement either. I don't want to do Barcelona any favours. They have to find the money and pay it to take Bernardo. Otherwise they, along with Mendes, can fuck right off. They signed a long contract at City and Mendes will have taken his cut from that too. They are in the Kane boat in that City are under absolutely no pressure to sell him and have years left on his deal.

That vote for Barca yesterday is massive. Laporte now knows he has the Barca members that own the majority of shares of the club on his side. Which means anything goes to bring money in. He’s already pushed through you can pay 350 euros to have a full eleven a side game at the stadium. Or pay 2 grand to get married at the stadium.

He’s now pushing the naming rights to sell to the highest bidder for the stadium. Full media rights , image rights etc anything goes. It could ruin Barcelona over time but they are increasingly desperate right now I don’t think they care at board level.
 
Teams like Barca and Madrid will always find ways to evade financial ruin. They're sporting institutions in Spain, and they use surreptitious methods, oftentimes involving national banks, to ease the burden. It's why the hypocrisy of our club being state-funded is rank, and why a Super League is an inevitability at this stage.

You are right and both clubs have benefited from both local and state government subsidies, loans, dodgy land deals etc and major banks were giving soft loans at preferential rates and often didn’t call the loans in but Spain is skint, local government is on its knees and the banks are struggling - so hence Tebas outrage - the goose has stopped laying golden eggs.
 
That vote for Barca yesterday is massive. Laporte now knows he has the Barca members that own the majority of shares of the club on his side. Which means anything goes to bring money in. He’s already pushed through you can pay 350 euros to have a full eleven a side game at the stadium. Or pay 2 grand to get married at the stadium.

He’s now pushing the naming rights to sell to the highest bidder for the stadium. Full media rights , image rights etc anything goes. It could ruin Barcelona over time but they are increasingly desperate right now I don’t think they care at board level.

The thing is, their wage cap is what it is. That won't change this summer. They can't even register Kessie, Christensen etc. Gavi's new deal isn't signed probably because they can't afford to give him that pay bump. I simply don't see feasibly how they can add the likes of Lewandowski and Bernardo without selling several players, not just FDJ. I also don't see United paying 100 million euros for him when he isn't even sold on the move. Feels like a lot of smoke and mirrors.
 
Losing Bernardo while understandable if he wants to go would be a huge blow. There’s not many obvious replacement, I always thought Bellingham was the intended replacement but that won’t be for another season. Means a season with an obvious deficiency in the squad.
 

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