It's Quiet 17 - Glory Thread

simon23 said:
Haaland replaces aguero
Alvarez replaces Torres
So selling Jesus leaves a gap in the squad

And selling Bernardo and Sterling leaves a hue gap as you say
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Disagree about a Jesus replacement mate.

Foden
Grealish
Haaland
Alverez
Mahrez
Sterling/replacement
Palmer

Is plenty for 3 positions. 8 players for just 3 positions is overkill imo.
 
JewelZee said:
I already told him Pep identifies who and what he needs and the crew sets about trying to make it happen...that's how it works period!!...has this fella heard of the personal calls Pep has placed with players BEFORE they are brought on board, including Haaland and Alvarez...this guy wants to suggest the club don't know what they're doing but he knows including Pep in that will make look even dumber than he already looks so he hangs his hat on Pep's not involved in the decisions when in fact Pep has perhaps the biggest say...everyone is entitled to an opinion, but this Pep isn't in on the decisions thing is simply not factual...in fact its basically insane and idiotic to even suggest...
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He actually couldn`t grasp the fact that Pep actually tells lies to the media.
How gullible is that ? ;)
 
simon23 said:
lose the creativity of Bernardo, the running that creates space from Jesus and sterling, the pressing of those 3 and not to mention the defensive work of those 3 when running back towards their own goal and he will have to

I think people underestimate the work rate of the 3 we are talking about leaving and how the ones left lack it
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only messing. The work rate from sterling and Jesus is phenomenal. Bernie going would cause us problems I agree. No one is throwing these players out they want to go.

A new approach is needed. For all the good points you make for each player. The ability to score regularly has been a problem. Hell jesus even decided he wanted to be a winger. Sterling for whatever reason wants to go and has looked a shadow of the player he once was for us.

The club need to move on. This current team limped home again for the second season in a row. Winning the league was an amazing achievement with no forward, dwindling Fern and a lb in jail.

I am very thankful for everything that both players have contributed. We can’t fear their loss but accept change is coming mainly due to as I said the players mentioned wanting out.
 
Move foden inside is fine...

However who then for the left side....Grealish? He was poor there last season...his work rate aint as good as those mentioned, neither is his creativity, goal threat, defensive work when running towards his own goal, his pressing isnt as good, he cant beat a man or rarely does, his delivery from crossing is not as good

B.Silva has also played on the right.....as has sterling - which leaves Mahrez out there....great against average prem teams and int he CL when he seems to step up BUT against teams with real fight and drive in the Prem he goes noteably missing

For me we are potentially letting the wrong players leave.

Surely we could encourage PSG with a bid for Mahrez - he would definitely be off like a shot.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
At some point we need to give him a proper chance and allow him to start more games. Similar to foden when he broke through
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This isn't really comparable though. Palmer has made 13 appearances for the first team, the majority handfuls of minutes from the bench. We didn't feel the need to sign a replacement for Silva because at that point Foden was a regular starter for us.

Palmer has a clear path in replacing Mahrez - we're not going to be short of minutes to share out with 5 subs and the ridiculous schedule. We could sign another forward to replace Raz and still give Palmer enough games to break through - especially as he's versatile like Phil and can play as an 8.

I honestly thought this would be the depth for our front 6 this season:

Rodri/Phillips
De Bruyne/Palmer Bernardo/Gundogan
Mahrez/Sterling Haaland/Alvarez Foden/Grealish
 
Been on Twitter all day, Haaland is leaving before he as kicked a ball in anger, ditto the rest of the squad, the good news for pep, we have 127 players arriving.
 
wolviedinho said:
only messing. The work rate from sterling and Jesus is phenomenal. Bernie going would cause us problems I agree. No one is throwing these players out they want to go.

A new approach is needed. For all the good points you make for each player. The ability to score regularly has been a problem. Hell jesus even decided he wanted to be a winger. Sterling for whatever reason wants to go and has looked a shadow of the player he once was for us.

The club need to move on. This current team limped home again for the second season in a row. Winning the league was an amazing achievement with no forward, dwindling Fern and a lb in jail.

I am very thankful for everything that both players have contributed. We can’t fear their loss but accept change is coming mainly due to as I said the players mentioned wanting out.
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I agree on your points...
Mine is that we are left we worse options outwide in Mahrez and Grealish

I could take losing Sterling and Jesus but to lose B.Silva would be a huge mistake....it was said last year and thankfully no one came in for him or he changed his mind or whatever happened....
 
simon23 said:
Haaland replaces aguero
Alvarez replaces Torres
So selling Jesus leaves a gap in the squad

And selling Bernardo and Sterling leaves a hue gap as you say
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Except that Torres and Aguero were never really playing at the same time. After Torres arrived, Aguero played the equivalent of 8 full games. And Torres was the least used of our attackers by far.

Foden has also gone from an irregular to a main starter since Aguero's last full season.
 
balotelli's back pocket said:
Alvarez is a fantastic talent and ready to play a part for us - in the middle.

He came through at River Plate as a winger and was regarded as a good young player with decent potential. But it's only when he went through the middle that he exploded. He's a fantastic finisher, good with both feet, he presses well, he's stocky and strong and he's not slow. But he's probably not as fast as Jesus and certainly not as fast as Sterling. Alvarez is Gabby's replacement, pretty clearly - a back up striker who can also cover the wings and press. He isn't at the same level technically but he could end up being a world class centre forward, and a very good inside forward.

He isn't as good as Gabby on the wing, and Gabby isn't as good as Raz on the wing. The idea that Alvarez is a suitable replacement for Sterling is nonsense.

If he's going, fine. Get the best fee and get it done. But if we've got to within a year of his contract running out and we haven't identified a suitable replacement, it's a failure IMO.
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Alvarez is not a direct replacement for sterling. but if we buy no one then he will replace jesus/sterling playtime on the right wing and will rotate with mahrez. palmer will play in the cups and some easy league matches.
 
simon23 said:
I agree on your points...
Mine is that we are left we worse options outwide in Mahrez and Grealish

I could take losing Sterling and Jesus but to lose B.Silva would be a huge mistake....it was said last year and thankfully no one came in for him or he changed his mind or whatever happened....
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Agree with Bernie. I expect Jack to come out of his shell this season. Mahrez can be hit and miss so another winger might be needed. We could be sitting top by Christmas and the new players tearing it up. Hopefully the recruitment is spot on otherwise we might struggle for 1/2 seasons. City struggling usually still means a cup or league win anyway. We need the change in personal.

Put it this way. If Pep wanted sterling and Jesus to stay they would. That’s why I have hope Bernie can be convinced that his future is with us. Pep does not want him to leave so unless he is hell bent on going we got a good chance to keep him.
 
JewelZee said:
Could you see him playing as an 8?
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Is that at me for Nkunku? ((I got quoted but nothing in the post)

Maybe, is good at breaking lines to run into, but lot of space in the bundesliga would need to adjust for low block games.
 
The Stockport Iniesta said:
Disagree about a Jesus replacement mate.

Foden
Grealish
Haaland
Alverez
Mahrez
Sterling/replacement
Palmer

Is plenty for 3 positions. 8 players for just 3 positions is overkill imo.
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But the point is we might not be replacing Sterling...so thats one down for starters

ALvarez - a complete unknown txixi et al know what they are doing buteven experienced players come to the prem ad struggle and here we have a young kid playing for the first time out of Brazil...he will need time.

Palmer - a great prosepct but can he step up...he certainly looks like he could but for me its similar to Alvarez and an unknown

Grealish - his performances will need to improve hugely - he was bang average imho last year. he is nowhere near what we are potentially losing. he isnt fit to lace Bernardo's boots in ANY aspect of the game and as far as work rate he is nowhere near Jesus.
 
Worry with losing sterling and jesus is that we‘ll have no wingers on the right who can get in behind or to the line and cut it back. We‘ll only have left footers who have to turn back and play a delayed cross. Sometimes this is ok but sometimes (villa for one example) we need to change the angle of attack.

dont know enough about alvarez who i dont think is a winger
 
Agueroooo9320 said:
Alvarez is not a direct replacement for sterling. but if we buy no one then he will replace jesus/sterling playtime on the right wing and will rotate with mahrez. palmer will play in the cups and some easy league matches.
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If Alvarez is rotating with Mahrez, who exactly is rotating with Haaland? One of the three is going to end up playing a silly amount of games. One has never played European football, one has a patchy injury record of late and the other is 31.
 
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