It's Quiet 32 - enter at own risk

twosips said:
Angelino's done, Rodri not far behind. Tomorrow at latest I think. Could change of course, but lovely stuff.
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I'm really enthused by these two signings. Angelino just seems like such a smart purchase, a player who's developed a lot and will get better under Pep.

Rodri is the game changer. He's as good a #6 as we'll get. His mobility, height and ability to play through the lines is going to add a new dimension to the side.
 
The Riot Club said:
So much for "just taking the pinch this time". Surely we'd challenge any of this in court.
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I think you`re getting confused.
The last "pinch" we had was from UEFA for so called breaking FFP Regs.
The FIFA one is connected to the same punishment handed out to Chelsea ref the signing of young players from overseas.
Two separate entities.
 
The Riot Club said:
So much for "just taking the pinch this time". Surely we'd challenge any of this in court.
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Again, this is from Fifa, not UEFA. It's to do with signing foreign underage youth players and is what got Chelsea banned and fined and even the FA fined. I'm guessing it's to do with interpretation of the rules, Chelsea were found guilty for 29 cases out of 92 investigated, we're being investigated for 9(?) although there's also possibly an investigation into the Right To Dream Academy (I think) and whether we had 'undue influence' which edges towards 3rd party ownership.
 
cjn said:
I feel like this is something we should be talking about more. We don't seem to be doing much in the way of contingency planning and in the worst case scenario we will lose David Silva and Ilkay Gundogan, Fernandinho will be 35, Aguero will have one year left on his deal, and we could potentially have to sell Sane or else risk losing him for free the summer after. We have a very strong squad obviously, but things can change quickly. And if we don't sign a centerback this summer thats one more thing to worry about.
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What you mean to say is the club haven't told you what they are doing, so you have assumed the worst
 
Withnail said:
I think a ban will happen not sure when, but with this in mind and Otamendi's best years behind him I think we need to buy a top class cb. I like Maguire and he would do well at City, but certainly not at £80 to £90m
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Would he do better if he were £40m?
Im obviously missing something as I cannot fathom this reasoning at all
 
If we do get a transfer ban, why should we get 2 windows when we were allegedly only at fault for a small number of signings while Chelsea were found guilty of shedloads and got 2 windows?? Ideally, for me, if we get found in breach, I would offer to accept it for 1 window and next January...
 
mosssideblue said:
Would he do better if he were £40m?
Im obviously missing something as I cannot fathom this reasoning at all
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If Leicester wanted 200 million for him you’d still be happy to pay it just because he’s a good player? What about 400 million?500 million, at what point does it become a stupid deal for city?
 
willipp said:
If Leicester wanted 200 million for him you’d still be happy to pay it just because he’s a good player? What about 400 million?500 million, at what point does it become a stupid deal for city?
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You are right, but the average fan doesn't really care about value for money, or saving 50million on a transfer means the club can buy another prospect with that 50.

Personally think he's ok, but I would let United blow us out of the water at 90 million.
 
willipp said:
If Leicester wanted 200 million for him you’d still be happy to pay it just because he’s a good player? What about 400 million?500 million, at what point does it become a stupid deal for city?
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I said something similar last week, we have to have a limit and you have to look at the realism of this transfer. Two years ago TWO he was bought for £17m and while he may be an established international now his stock has not risen by that much in just two years regardless of what Leicester think. He might be worth £90m to Leicester because they don't want to lose him and they don't need to sell but he isn't worth £90m to us. Kompany was a legend no doubt but don't forget he missed a lot of games last season and we still did OK with the other defensive options we had. Maguire is seen as the "replacement" for Kompany. The price is being ramped up because he is homegrown and Leicester don't want to sell the best thing we can do is move on and go for someone else because the price tag is a joke. He is worth no more than £50m and that is not a reflection on his ability that is just being realistic.

If Tkiki writes a cheque for £90m I'll eat my own arse with a spoon.
 
Thanks to FFP money does matter. It’s not about what the player is worth in terms of the fee itself though, it’s what percentage of our budget is he worth sacrificing to us, and it’s the same for pretty much every other premier league club now.

If we had a £200 million limit this summer and spent 80 on Maguire that’s 40% of what we can spend, if we’ve got £400 million, it’s 20% and looks like a more attractive purchase even though it’s the same price, and that’s all that matters now. There’s too much money for the fee to have any real meaning on its own
 
badaz52 said:
I said something similar last week, we have to have a limit and you have to look at the realism of this transfer. Two years ago TWO he was bought for £17m and while he may be an established international now his stock has not risen by that much in just two years regardless of what Leicester think. He might be worth £90m to Leicester because they don't want to lose him and they don't need to sell but he isn't worth £90m to us. Kompany was a legend no doubt but don't forget he missed a lot of games last season and we still did OK with the other defensive options we had. Maguire is seen as the "replacement" for Kompany. The price is being ramped up because he is homegrown and Leicester don't want to sell the best thing we can do is move on and go for someone else because the price tag is a joke. He is worth no more than £50m and that is not a reflection on his ability that is just being realistic.

If Tkiki writes a cheque for £90m I'll eat my own arse with a spoon.
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Of course there is a limit, the limit however shouldn't concern any of us. The clubs finances are in good hands and they will set their own limits. The limits will be the whole package though fee plus wages.
 
If City can afford to buy Maguire why worry what he costs the club. I would go for him if we have the money as his game best suits City. Pretty much the only threat opponents have against City is nicking one from a set piece or banging in a world class strike. He'd also make us a threat at set-pieces. No one wins as many corners as us.

Obviously there's more to his game than heading, but he is the outstanding Inthe air.
 
We could have a cheap and cheerful summer whilst signing 2 CBs, one in his prime, who is in the top 3 CBs in the PL with VVD & Lap, and one a future partner to E.Garcia, for nigh on half the price of Maguire. Also no need to sign a HG player after Angelino is confirmed - unless we do something stupid like sell him immediately or bring in that Spanish GK as 3rd choice
  1. Alderweireld - 25m
  2. Alves - free
  3. Angelino - 5m
  4. Rodri - 62m
(Would also sign Saliba, who looks like he could potentially become VVD-esque in the future, but loan him back)

  1. Ederson
  2. Bravo
  3. GRIMSHAW 1
  4. STONES 2
  5. Laporte
  6. Alderweireld
  7. E.Garcia (not in CL squad unless there's a long term injury. 1 yr till HG)
  8. WALKER 3
  9. Alves
  10. ANGELINO 4
  11. Zinchenko
  12. Mendy
  13. Fernandinho
  14. Rodri
  15. DOYLE 5
  16. Gundogan
  17. De Bruyne
  18. Silva
  19. FODEN 6
  20. Bernardo
  21. STERLING 7
  22. Mahrez
  23. Sane
  24. POVEDA 8
  25. Aguero
  26. G.Jesus
 
willipp said:
If Leicester wanted 200 million for him you’d still be happy to pay it just because he’s a good player? What about 400 million?500 million, at what point does it become a stupid deal for city?
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Its only stupid when people say he would only be good for us if he cost x. He doesn't up his game according to price is my point
 
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