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Tricky_Trev said:
Not with Walker in the team. Bernardo will be on the right, but allowed to move centrally by virtue of Walker providing the width. Same on the other flank with Sanchez and Mendy, should we actually sign them.
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The best thing about Bernardo is that he can play on both flanks as well as central attacking mid
 
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route46 said:
players who are nailed on too start when fit ........Ederson, Walker, Mendy, Kompany, Silva, Sanchez

Toure, Fernandinho, Kolarov will know they are squad players.

only players who I could see whining if they are not in the starting 11 are Sane, Jesus, De Bruyne, Sterling (sterling being no great loss)

Don't see Aguero kicking up a fuss as he has prob been told give it his all next season and we will let him leave next year for Argentina
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I think you are being presumptuous. Lets see how they settle in first before guaranteeing them a place
 
BillyShears said:
"Massive problem". That's absolute garbage. You really think it's a massive problem for Bayern or Real that they may have two or three upset players in the squad whilst they continue to win everything in sight? The answer simply put is - no. They don't give a fuck. And neither should we. Either have the mentality that you want to be the best possible or be Arsenal and keep some bullshit hierarchy of players who are collectively not good enough whilst pretending you're a 'top' club.
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There is a difference between Bayern, Real Madrid and teams like City. They play in Champions league finals and give players who might not be assured of a game in the league opportunities that make up for not having an automatic start.
 
Marvin said:
There is a difference between Bayern, Real Madrid and teams like City. They play in Champions league finals and give players who might not be assured of a game in the league opportunities that make up for not having an automatic start.
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Duh. No shit Marvin. And why do they get to CL finals regularly?

FFS it's like talking to water at times.
 
BillyShears said:
Duh. No shit Marvin. And why do they get to CL finals regularly?

FFS it's like talking to water at times.
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For those saying we aren't real, Barca or Bayern....the goal is to be them....if players don't play well enough and sulk we sell them for huge sums of money and bring in another extreme talent. That's exactly what the other clubs do, I don't understand people who complain we are signing too many players for the same position. The reason we aren't at the level of the other theee clubs listed is because we have no depth in the squad. Those teams bring in Isco off the THE BENCH!! We on the other hand had nolito and navas...that should tell you exactly why we need to sign all this quality
 
gomer27 said:
For those saying we aren't real, Barca or Bayern....the goal is to be them....if players don't play well enough and sulk we sell them for huge sums of money and bring in another extreme talent. That's exactly what the other clubs do, I don't understand people who complain we are signing too many players for the same position. The reason we aren't at the level of the other theee clubs listed is because we have no depth in the squad. Those teams bring in Isco off the THE BENCH!! We on the other hand had nolito and navas...that should tell you exactly why we need to sign all this quality
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Well said.
 
gomer27 said:
For those saying we aren't real, Barca or Bayern....the goal is to be them....if players don't play well enough and sulk we sell them for huge sums of money and bring in another extreme talent. That's exactly what the other clubs do, I don't understand people who complain we are signing too many players for the same position. The reason we aren't at the level of the other theee clubs listed is because we have no depth in the squad. Those teams bring in Isco off the THE BENCH!! We on the other hand had nolito and navas...that should tell you exactly why we need to sign all this quality
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The same Isco who is supposedly super unhappy yet constantly stays. Same goes for James, Coentrao and Alaba.

When you win things players seem to get over their problems over summer...
 
I don't see B Silva playing right side for us much, think he's been mainly signed as rotation for Kev and Dave who were both run into the ground last season.
 
Marvin said:
There is a difference between Bayern, Real Madrid and teams like City. They play in Champions league finals and give players who might not be assured of a game in the league opportunities that make up for not having an automatic start.
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when will it sink in to some of you all i see is BUT we are not Bayern/Madrid/Barca.......
 
schfc6 said:
People seem hung up on this keeping players happy lark.

They'll all get plenty of games, as you say those delivering the most will get the most minutes and those struggling to make an impact will next summer become targets for second tier clubs like Liverpool, Arsenal and the Milan clubs if they eventually get their act together.

I imagine the idea is, our squad matches the very best and those falling behind go to the second tier. Much like Sanchez & Ozil went to Arsenal & Di Maria went to the rags. We will hopefully be the elite club, we won't be paying clubs to take Nasri and Bony on loan, clubs like Inter & Arsenal will be in a bidding war for our cast offs.

If our front six is Bernardo, Sané, Aguero, Sterling, Jesus & Sanchez and say Bernardo & Aguero don't perform as well, then we can expect a bidding war.
After this summer, gone are the days of desperately trying to shift our shit.
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That's what I would hope happens. If a 'star' isn't performing, drop him. If he then gets upset about it, sell him.

I would expect maximum effort from all, at least for a season, even if some have a turd in their pocket about being dropped, then the ones who aren't happy can leave at the end of that season & be replaced by others, or our own products.

If it's not working & a player isn't satisfied, it's no reason why he can't do his best for the season before moving on.
 
Dax777 said:
I'm willing to bet you a hundred pound on behalf of @Tevez City that by December your opinion of who should start at right wing would have changed.

B. Silva would not only start, but by December I guarantee you'd whine if Pep doesn't start him :-)
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I love Sane but I have to agree here. Silva's footballing intelligence is way ahead of sane's. Due to him being so small he's had to learn the spacing and timing required for him to retain possession. He's going to be world class by next year under Pep with the progression he's shown ( my classification for world class is someone with immense ability who is consistent, shows up every week )
 
Neville Kneville said:
That's what I would hope happens. If a 'star' isn't performing, drop him. If he then gets upset about it, sell him.

I would expect maximum effort from all, at least for a season, even if some have a turd in their pocket about being dropped, then the ones who aren't happy can leave at the end of that season & be replaced by others, or our own products.

If it's not working & a player isn't satisfied, it's no reason why he can't do his best for the season before moving on.
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What people seem to forget is that if a player hands in his notice because of a lack of playing time, someone else will pay top dollar. It's not like trying to flog off Bony.

We'll get full price for the player and can just reinvest that for someone new who's just as good and ready to fight for a place in the team.
 
BillyShears said:
Duh. No shit Marvin. And why do they get to CL finals regularly?

FFS it's like talking to water at times.
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I feel your pain sire....trust me I've been here a number of times.

Yates said:
I love Sane but I have to agree here. Silva's footballing intelligence is way ahead of sane's. Due to him being so small he's had to learn the spacing and timing required for him to retain possession. He's going to be world class by next year under Pep with the progression he's shown ( my classification for world class is someone with immense ability who is consistent, shows up every week )
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I don't think it has to be an 'either or' situation. They will start a lot of games together, I reckon. That's a nice definition you gave there on 'world class'. I'll definitely take it. It's a world class definition.
 
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