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tolmie's hairdoo said:
As a result of his own stupidity.

Just saying.
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he would also have had 2 more assists in the last game if GJ could have finished one from 5 yds(yesterday) and made the run the right side of the defender (vs the rags)....did Ku also set up the one that was denied vs Spurs.....maybe wrong on that one as cant remember
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Better to have Sanchez weighing in with 17-18 - creating another ten, and Jesus bagging another 20, than remaining reliant on one man.
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That is true but I think Kun demonstrated yesterday he has the tools to adapt to playing a slightly different role.

I'm not keen to see Aguero go for all sorts of reasons but I do think it is possible to let him go and improve but that does rely on bringing in the right replacement as you have already mentioned. Sanchez, Mbappe or even Auba could be good moves. There's good reason to think Jesus can pretty much match Kun for goals and deliver more besides so the replacement does not necessarily need to match Kun as a goal-getter but does need to bring something different.
 
karen7 said:
If someone is going to use stats they should get it right

Just saying
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The stats he posted were more than valid.

Certainly so, when you also factor in together Sanchez's nine assists.

Unless we are presuming Sergio would have made up another eight assists in those seven games he missed through suspension.

Even KDB or Silva would struggle for that ratio.
 
simon23 said:
he would also have had 2 more assists in the last game if GJ could have finished one from 5 yds(yesterday) and made the run the right side of the defender (vs the rags)....did Ku also set up the one that was denied vs Spurs.....maybe wrong on that one as cant remember
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If we're going down this route, Sergio should have scored over 50 goals this season and we should be leading the Premier League by ten points.
 
Kun is very good. One of the ten best strikers in the world. But that summer is the best time to sell him and the team to earn real money.
Don't forget thatbwe have GJ. The striker of the Brasil. And that moment Brasil National Team is No1 in the world.
 
karen7 said:
If someone is going to use stats they should get it right

Just saying
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4 of Sergio's goals were penalties, compared to Alexis' 2.

Further, Alexis has hit the bar 5 times this season and Kun only twice.

Meanwhile, Alexis has played in four different positions (across the front three and CAM) and Sergio has remained at CF.
 
simon23 said:
he would also have had 2 more assists in the last game if GJ could have finished one from 5 yds(yesterday) and made the run the right side of the defender (vs the rags)....did Ku also set up the one that was denied vs Spurs.....maybe wrong on that one as cant remember
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And he would have more goals if he had finished off chances created by others
You , me and others can spin twist everything about Aguero it's up to him and the club to decide if he stays or goes and that is the only true fact that no one can twist or spin
 
simon23 said:
but are we going to have two 20 goal a season forwards???????

if we keep Kun and GJ then we already have that........potentially more.....

Kun and GJ have played about 130 mins together give or take a little here and there.......Kun has set up a golfer GJ, set up the one that was denied vs the rags and set up another one for him that he missed from 5 yds yesterday.......thats all in very few mins of game time.......

I agree on rose and walker being upgrades.......but that aint really hard at present either
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I think from what Tolmie has said it'll be Jesus and Sanchez.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
The stats he posted were more than valid.

Certainly so, when you also factor in together Sanchez's nine assists.

Unless we are presuming Sergio would have made up another eight assists in those seven games he missed through suspension.

Even KDB or Silva would struggle for that ratio.
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Compare goals per minutes played to get the right picture,sergio could have scored 10 in 7 games but we will never know

It's clear to me for a while you want us to let sergio go and i have made my feelings very clear how i feel about that,i got a load of shit last time i said so i'll hold back and see what happens before i let fly again
 
Akiva said:
4 of Sergio's goals were penalties, compared to Alexis' 2.

Further, Alexis has hit the bar 5 times this season and Kun only twice.

Meanwhile, Alexis has played in four different positions (across the front three and deeper) and Sergio has remained at CF.
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I read all the same arguments for Yaya staying two years ago.

That worked out well.

We should not allow things to drag out and sour if Sergio decides he will be better served elsewhere.
 
Akiva said:
4 of Sergio's goals were penalties, compared to Alexis' 2.

Further, Alexis has hit the bar 5 times this season and Kun only twice.

Meanwhile, Alexis has played in four different positions (across the front three and CAM) and Sergio has remained at CF.
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Sergio is a CF shocker,has it taken you 6 yrs to spot that
 
karen7 said:
Compare goals per minutes played to get the right picture,sergio could have scored 10 in 7 games but we will never know

It's clear to me for a while you want us to let sergio go and i have made my feelings very clear how i feel about that,i got a load of shit last time i said so i'll hold back and see what happens before i let fly again
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I don't think he wants Kun to go, I don't think any of us do. But it sounds like he's heard things to suggest he may well do, and if so then we need the replacement to be quality.

I'd hate to see Kun leave, but I guess Sanchez and Jesus wouldn't be a bad forward line.

I'd still rather Kun and Jesus though!
 
karen7 said:
Sergio is a CF shocker,has it taken you 6 yrs to spot that
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Oh bore off with this faux ignorance. The point is, Sanchez has provided more goals, from open play, despite not playing as a centre-forward for much of the season.

You don't need to go for the jugular, nobody here wants Kun to go. People just think it's likely Kun himself might want to.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
If we're going down this route, Sergio should have scored over 50 goals this season and we should be leading the Premier League by ten points.
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i don't get why the "blame" for this is being laid at sergios door...he is the only one scoring goals ...the midfield of sterling sane KDB (especially) and silva are extremely culpable...they don't get in positions to score or when they do make a complete hash of it...none of this is down to sergio at all......yes he could have scored more but he is the only one whoever looks like scoring on a regular basis....(by all accounts GJ was poor yesterday...i didnt see the gam but going off the reports on here and elsewhere)......

we are again going to put all our eggs into one basket...we have made this mistake this season WITH sergio...ie relied on him too much....yet we are going to sell him and rely on a 20 year old kid and potentially sanchez who has never been as prolific as Sergio....

Its a huge gamble and one which i think will define Peps time here.....hope he gets it right as if he doesn't he will be hung out to dry and he will only have himself to blame....he half fucked up the keeper situation...whether it was he right thing to sell hart is one thing....but the replacement is ALL on him and he has been an abject failure...the worse keeper in our recent history and the worst in the prem at present.
 
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