It's Quiet - a new dawn

[City Raider]

Liverpool chief exec Peter Moore says #LFC won't be drawn into a transfer arms race with #MCFC, writes @_pauljoyce thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/…

 

[uwe rosler 28]

Isn't there VAT on top of those Spanish buy out clauses?

Tax the fee will exceed 100m but I think Antoine will stay loyal until they can at least find a replacement that's why I think no bid has been lodged before this appeal.

 

[Ballet On Ice]

Isn't there VAT on top of those Spanish buy out clauses?

From what I’ve heard before I think that the buying club effectively “gives” the fee to the player to buy himself out of the contract. As the player has received the money he has to pay tax on the income which could be why so many Spanish buy out clauses seem so high, they have effectively included the tax in the size of the clause.

 

[domalino]

Isn't there VAT on top of those Spanish buy out clauses?

Tax the fee will exceed 100m but I think Antoine will stay loyal until they can at least find a replacement that's why I think no bid has been lodged before this appeal.

From what I’ve heard before I think that the buying club effectively “gives” the fee to the player to buy himself out of the contract. As the player has received the money he has to pay tax on the income which could be why so many Spanish buy out clauses seem so high, they have effectively included the tax in the size of the clause.

It used to be that because you gave the player the money, you incurred a tax of about 20% higher than the designate release fee. ie €100m release fee would cost you €120m to activate.

However the law changed last year, there's no longer any tax problems if the player himself has to activate the release fee.

 

[uwe rosler 28]

It used to be that because you gave the player the money, you incurred a tax of about 20% higher than the designate release fee. ie €100m release fee would cost you €120m to activate.

However the law changed last year, there's no longer any tax problems if the player himself has to activate the release fee.

Oh right just going off what Graham hunter said on talkshite earlier

 

[domalino]

Oh right just going off what Graham hunter said on talkshite earlier

That's strange because Hunter usually knows his stuff, but I've definitely seen a lot of stuff saying the spanish tax authorities changed it in late 2016 from being counted as income to capital gain - which got rid of the tax liability.

 

[TRUE BLUE NO1]

Part of the Cadena COPE story was that we'd only get him if the ban was lifted, and that he'd come next year if it's not.

His release clause is only €5m more so we could force the issue, but if we accept that the article is right about us being interested, we should also accept they're right about the rest of the story about him coming next summer.

Cheers mate....I've just asked this on his thread.....If his release clause(55mil euros) is only £2.5mil more than what we have offered...if he's our target, surely we'd just meet the release clause and get him in this summer?

 

[Milner]

Cheers mate....I've just asked this on his thread.....If his release clause(55mil euros) is only £2.5mil more than what we have offered...if he's our target, surely we'd just meet the release clause and get him in this summer?

Sure, but it also requires the player wanting to leave. By doing so now, Lucas would leave Atletico in a world of trouble, because they can't buy a replacement. I'm quite confident he doesnt want to do that.

 

[Franny 1234]

What's Kimmich's situation? If Fabinho is rag-bound then surely if we want a guy that can play in midfield and right back, we should be all over him? Unless Fernandinho is now a right back, period.

I am convinced pep sees FERNO as a right back full time.
C.T.I.D

 

[blueinsa]

I am convinced pep sees FERNO as a right back full time.
C.T.I.D

Not a chance does he see him as a right back.

Pep is very clear as to the requirements a full back has to have and Ferny does not have them.