It's Quiet the £250m return

I’m not getting the optimism of some fans if these two don’t happen. We will finish in the top 4/5 but forget the title and CL without big moves this week.
I’ll wait and see, a right back would help, but happy to stick with Ederson. Think we.ll challenge either way a right back might swing a bit more, but am 90% sure we aren’t getting one this window.
 
Take off Grealish for Trafford.

Ok how's this..

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I put the likely outgoings at the end.

Echeverri for sure is on loan
Reis is on loan but able to come back.

So at least 2 more have to leave but if we want to add more.. 3 have to leave.

The good thing with Trafford in for Grealish is we don't have to buy from other English clubs.. as there's only a minimum of 8 domestic players of which 4 have to be academy trained.

So technically all domestic can be from City academy.
 
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Have we actually been linked with any right back other than livramento (who we just "admire") all summer?
Don’t think so, we were and still are limited to a home grown one anyway. My guess we know who we want or have options and that whoever isn’t possible this window. Just a guess though.
 
Rodri, Haaland, Foden, for sure.
Gvardiol and Stones definitely arguable.

We are rebuilding.
I think there are a number of our players - Cherki, Bobb, Savinho, with a higher ceiling than a number of the Arsenal players.

As things stand, Arsenal probably have the strongest, most balanced squad in the league. Whether they can handle it when it becomes emotional is another matter.

Ait Nouri gets in over Calafiori and Lewis Skelly.

Marmoush likely gets in over Martinelli who they don't even rate.

Donnarumma if he comes gets in over Raya.

Saka, Odegard, Rice and Saliba are quality for sure but their squad depth is exaggerated.
 
I’m not sure how folk seems to think we’ll be struggling for top 4 this season, we came third last season, and scored more goals than Arsenal, despite having one of the worst injury crises of all time and a host of aging players fall off a cliff.

We’re going into the season with new energy with a bagsman midfielder in Reinjders, an actual left back and a maestro in Cherki.

First full seasons for promising players like 28 league goals Marmoush, Khusanov and Nico G.

Rodri, Foden and Bobb may well feel like new signings after last season and all of our centre halves (touch wood) are fit and available for selection.

A right back and the worlds best goalkeeper would be nice but a little perspective lads.
 
So we're broadly in agreement then?

OK, the players you mentioned in comparison were seasoned internationals in the prime of their careers, & none of them were asked to play the complex Rico role, so we can deduce that comparisons between them & Rico are impossible to make.

In terms of Rico being a specialist RB, No 6, No 8 or No 10, he's not being asked to play these roles, so coming to the conclusion that he couldn't play them to a degree of success is a subjective opinion, which you're entitled to hold.

However, if you're claiming these opinions to be fact, I'd be interested to see your evidence & for you to explain how you've arrived at these conclusions, considering Rico's never been regularly asked to specialise as a No 6, No 8 or No 10 so we can contrast & compare.

He's a 20 year old academy graduate playing a unique role, whose being compared to seasoned internationals who Pep considers aren't "intelligent" or "capable" enough to carry out that role.

We need a sense of fairness & perspective here. I've serious issues with our inverted tactics & believe we need to get back to Pep's classic 4-3-3 flat back four basics, because his inverted FB system has been well & truly sussed.

Against lesser quality players, we have more than enough as evidenced against Wolves. But even then the danger signs were there for all to see. If Wolves had better quality attackers, they should've scored three against us.

The main issue is when we come up against teams with better quality players like Spuds. At that point, since last November we've been at a distinct disadvantage against the best, hence us nearly getting relegated from the CL positions & our early exit from the 2024-25 competition.

Rico Lewis isn't to blame for any of that. It's not as like if Rico's removed, that's the silver bullet needed to return to prime treble winning City is it?
ive never said anything is fact

Nothing anyone on here says is fact

Rico is not good enough to play the classic right back role either so while I agree with you broadly that its not his fault he is neither good enough for the role he is being asked to play or as a more standard right back.

And while he is not at "fault" it is him losing the ball in the attacking third causing counters, it is him who cant make recovery runs and it is him who goes for crosses with the wrong foot and misses the ball. It is also him that gets bullied off the ball regularly.

Our issues are not completely on Rico Lewis (and no one has said that this is the case) but he the issue is that he is not good enough is part of the problem.
 
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Weird end to the window with so many players not sold.

Pep would need to start utilising the squad more. Still can’t get my head around Rico extending.

Akanji
Rico
Ake
Savio
Gundo
Eddie
Ortega

All should be gone.

What sort of effort will be put in this season? Never mind the mediocre performances.Not the clear out expected, but like the last two games. High expectations meet with reality and disappointment.

I read somewhere that in training the players had anger in their eyes or some shit like that. Far too much nonsense surrounding a team well below previous seasons.
 
Weird end to the window with so many players not sold.

Pep would need to start utilising the squad more. Still can’t get my head around Rico extending.

Akanji
Rico
Ake
Savio
Gundo
Eddie
Ortega

All should be gone.

What sort of effort will be put in this season? Never mind the mediocre performances.Not the clear out expected, but like the last two games. High expectations meet with reality and disappointment.

I read somewhere that in training the players had anger in their eyes or some shit like that. Far too much nonsense surrounding a team well below previous seasons.
Releasing/selling some of those might have focussed minds. I get the sense that it all feels a bit comfortable at city right now. Thats said, the money needs to be right to move people on tho
 
ive never said anything is fact

Nothing anyone on here says is fact

Rico is not good enough to play the classic right back role either so while I agree with you broadly that its not his fault he is neither good enough for the role he is being asked to play or as a more standard right back.

And while he is not at "fault" it is him losing the ball in the attacking third causing counters, it is him who cant make recovery runs and it is him who goes for crosses with the wrong foot and misses the ball. It is also him that gets bullied off the ball regularly.

Our issues are not completely on Rico Lewis (and no one has said that this is the case) but he the issue is that he is not good enough is part of the problem.
Of course people on here quote facts. It's a fact that today is Wednesday in the UK. It's a fact that our No 1 keeper over the last decade has been Ederson. It's a fact that Guardiola is our manager.

When Lewis is selected, what role is he usually selected to play?

When you say "him losing the ball in the attacking third causing counters", surely the solution is to not play Lewis & we'll never lose the ball in the attacking third right?

The fact you're overlooking is Lewis is the only player tasked with covering 4 positions when he plays. When/if an attack breaks down, it's not his job to magically appear in the RB position he's vacated in order to carry out his unique role.

That task falls to the right CB. The No 6 will drop into central defence alongside the left CB, with the left back covering his base. When Lewis has retreated, the No 6 will edge forward to form a shield in front of the defence, the right CB will move back into position & Lewis will move to RB. That is the tactical positional movements of having an inverted RB.

In terms of comparisons, Pep has publicly stated that Nunes doesn't possess the intelligence to play centrally. When selected to play RB, Nunes plays as a traditional over/underlapping RB, but Lewis is usually always tasked with the far more complex inverted RB, which is a totally different defensive discipline.

I get it. You don't rate Lewis, but you don't seem to be able to fundamentally explain exactly why apart from believing "he is not good enough".

You're judging Lewis in the unique role he, & he alone is tasked to play, but I think you're judging him harshly as I guess you don't fully understand what his inverted FB role entails.

OK, if Pep is to persist with the inverted FB role & you don't think Lewis is "good enough", can you give me a list of players who are good enough to play that unique inverted RB role, & also cite examples of them doing it successfully, where Lewis has failed?

We've got until 5pm Monday to identify these better inverted RB's than Lewis & buy them, as they certainly don't exist amongst our current squad.
 

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