It's Quiet the £250m return

Gumzy97 said:


that's interesting
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This further confirms my suspicion that several aspects of the squad planning have been taken away from Pep. It would also explain Rodri's recent comments.

Added to Khaldoon's end of season statement, it could be that the club's hierarchy are privately fuming that we've allowed our advantage to slip.

This is all on Pep who resisted keeping clear Sky Blue water between us & the chasing pack. Within 12 months, it's now City doing the chasing, with Liverpool, Arsenal & Chelsea doing all they can to maintain their new found advantage over us.

It's like the old adage... You snooze, you lose.
 
Dribble said:
This further confirms my suspicion that several aspects of the squad planning have been taken away from Pep. It would also explain Rodri's recent comments.

Added to Khaldoon's end of season statement, it could be that the club's hierarchy are privately fuming that we've allowed our advantage to slip.

This is all on Pep who resisted keeping clear Sky Blue water between us & the chasing pack. Within 12 months, it's now City doing the chasing, with Liverpool, Arsenal & Chelsea doing all they can to maintain their new found advantage over us.

It's like the old adage... You snooze, you lose.
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It’s not all on Guardiola. Responsibility for signing players such as Phillips and Nunes, as well as for allowing Palmer to leave, has to be shared. The problems started long before last season. The board now appreciates the full consequences of running a small squad, running them long, and running them into the ground. We were in unique circumstances as a club and we’re now showing we’ve learned.
 
Gabriel said:
It’s not all on Guardiola. Responsibility for signing players such as Phillips and Nunes, as well as for allowing Palmer to leave, has to be shared. The problems started long before last season. The board now appreciates the full consequences of running a small squad, running them long, and running them into the ground. We were in unique circumstances as a club and we’re now showing we’ve learned.
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I'd hazard a good guess that those final player acquisition calls would primarily fall on Txiki & Pep to make. What I've seen since the treble amounts to wilfull neglect. In the corporate world, this would be followed by final warnings & top level sackings unless the situation vastly improves.

If it was Txiki's call not to commence our succession planning, then he neglected the central tenant of a DoF, which is to ensure the continuity of a squad & it's playing ethos, regardless of who the coach is.

However, Pep admitted it was his decision to decline the commencement of our much needed squad rebuild, & it was VERY telling that Khaldoon also highlighted this in his end of season address.

It could all be coincidence, but let's look at our recent timeline:

Pep's backroom team being effectively sacked.

Rodri's comments about improving things on & OFF the pitch

Rodri, Bernardo & Foden publicly complaining about physical & mental burnout & the players preferring a bigger squad.

Lijnders disconnection to Pep & the team on matchdays.

Pep 'jokingly' threatening to quit if he was given a bigger squad to work with.

Pep selecting his ageing treble winners above our new signings at the CWC.

A tweet today claiming it was Viana alone who decided who came & went during the summer window.

With all the above, I could be forgiven for thinking Pep's perceived failings last season has seen him marginalised in comparison to previous years.

The above could be me putting 2+2 together & getting 115, but it could also easily be a case of there being no smoke without fire. Personally, something doesn't seem right behind the scenes at Manchester City & it leads me to wonder how many friends & allies Guardiola has left at the club.

All my humble, personal opinions of course...
 
BlueBrain said:
Sorry what am I wrong on?

BBC says their source is footballtransfers.com which a) puts their fees in euros b) probably doesn’t include the academy teams that teams do similar to how transfermrkt does.

Most of these sites uses APIs from one or couple sources.

Im literally going line by line through every transfer to get a good direct source on what the reported fee is.

Their net there is also £228m

Ive now updated database after deadline and all my update is £220m net (with add ons) and a spend of £448m. One major change I did there was move Liverpools new keeper to this season as I looked up his contract and it essentially went through this summer rather than the initial reported buy > loan > return it was just a delayed buy.

Which fee is incorrect that’s the better question ?
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Net spend of 220 million

We have fluttered that away on

Phillips
Nico G
Doku
Sav
Nunes
 
celf said:
Rodri's quotes seem alarming to me !
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They don't surprise me at all. We're all watching this decline. I remember the days where a player would be on the money for the majority of the game but make a couple of mistakes and be out the side for a while. I remember the documentaries of our success and how high the standards were, how furious Pep was if we weren't implementing his tactics properly.

We're now very poor on the pitch but it doesn't feel like anyone is driving the standards. When we're losing it doesn't feel like anyone is trying to grab the game by the scruff and drive us to success. We're just going through the motions.

I'm glad someone is willing to question things and give them a kick up the arse. Positively it's a guy we want to tie to a long-term contract and if he's going to sign we're going to have to make the changes for the better to secure him.
 
Dribble said:
This further confirms my suspicion that several aspects of the squad planning have been taken away from Pep. It would also explain Rodri's recent comments.

Added to Khaldoon's end of season statement, it could be that the club's hierarchy are privately fuming that we've allowed our advantage to slip.

This is all on Pep who resisted keeping clear Sky Blue water between us & the chasing pack. Within 12 months, it's now City doing the chasing, with Liverpool, Arsenal & Chelsea doing all they can to maintain their new found advantage over us.

It's like the old adage... You snooze, you lose.
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Doesn't 'confirm' anything.

Sure, if younhave come up with a narrative and you want something to reinforce that, this can be used for that.

But I very much doubt any of what you have imagined is true.

I don't say that in any dismissive or flippant way btw, I understand your take and you have explained it well. I simply disagree and don't think there is much in it, including this 'claim'. Or whatever it is.
 
Coatigan said:
Doesn't 'confirm' anything.

Sure, if younhave come up with a narrative and you want something to reinforce that, this can be used for that.

But I very much doubt any of what you have imagined is true.

I don't say that in any dismissive or flippant way btw, I understand your take and you have explained it well. I simply disagree and don't think there is much in it, including this 'claim'. Or whatever it is.
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You can disagree all you like mate, as is your right to do, but when do several coincidences become more than that?

Something's not been right with Guardiola since last summer & in my personal opinion, there's more to all these little things that have occurred over the last 12 months.

In isolation, they mean little. But when I look at them in a timeline, something's going on at City behind closed doors. You think different which is fine, so I suppose we'll just have to wait & see what comes out in the wash.
 
yellamcfc said:
So what’s the forum’s idea of Peps successor in time?
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If it's not someone like Enrique then I will be disappointed.

This club needs a proven leader and someone with authority and prestige to follow Pep, because if you start bringing in a project manager like Iraola post Pep, it will be Moyes and Ferguson all over again. The players just won't believe in him and respect him.
 
Gorbachev said:
If it's not someone like Enrique then I will be disappointed.

This club needs a proven leader and someone with authority and prestige to follow Pep, because if you start bringing in a project manager like Iraola post Pep, it will be Moyes and Ferguson all over again. The players just won't believe in him and respect him.
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I kind of agree to a certain extent, though I do like what managers such as Iraola and Thomas Frank have done with their teams, on a much smaller budget.
As you say, if we want to remain at the top and no disrespect to the managers mentioned, attract the best players, we will need a manager that that not only warrants respect, but has exciting ideas and isn’t afraid to make tactical changes.
 
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