It's Quiet Thread 15 - Txiki Blinders

[youngbob]

Heard we're signing Kane tomorrow, even though the window is shut.

Come rain or shine.

 

[Manchester_lalala]

If I was in his position I'd have made it my business to source an alternative that was good enough.
That's his job not mine.

Throwing money at a random striker is not within City’s business model. People were suggesting Andre Silva in the summer, he’s absolutely gash. I can’t think of any striker that would have been a guaranteed success, that is what you need when you’re spending millions on a striker that is going to lead the line for years. If it means going a year without winning the league then so be it, we can’t be wasting close to £100m on a striker that isn’t good enough.

 

[blueparrot]

We haven't got any at the moment that's the issue.

So you’d have bought a stop gap that might not improve the team and not waited for the right striker to be available, doesn’t sound like a good plan to me. Nor it seems the team of people, from the manager up to Khaldoon that have built our most successful squad over the years.

 

[B\connellblue]

So you’d have bought a stop gap that might not improve the team and not waited for the right striker to be available, doesn’t sound like a good plan to me. Nor it seems the team of people, from the manager up to Khaldoon that have built our most successful squad over the years.

A stop gap would have improved the team in so far as at the moment we don't have a focal point, a physical presence or a clinical finisher.

 

[Manchester_lalala]

So you’d have bought a stop gap that might not improve the team and not waited for the right striker to be available, doesn’t sound like a good plan to me. Nor it seems the team of people, from the manager up to Khaldoon that have built our most successful squad over the years.

Exactly. There’s a reason why it was Kane or nothing. I think it’s well known that the club often have alternate targets in the transfer windows, but this year it was different with Kane. I can’t think of any striker that would have done the job in the long term for us, so Txiki, Omar and their scouting team probably felt the same.

 

[B\connellblue]

Throwing money at a random striker is not within City’s business model. People were suggesting Andre Silva in the summer, he’s absolutely gash. I can’t think of any striker that would have been a guaranteed success, that is what you need when you’re spending millions on a striker that is going to lead the line for years. If it means going a year without winning the league then so be it, we can’t be wasting close to £100m on a striker that isn’t good enough.

Surely there is someone playing somewhere not costing £100m that could lead the line for us. We put in plenty of balls yesterday that any striker worthy of the name would have gobbled up

 

[Manchester_lalala]

A stop gap would have improved the team in so far as at the moment we don't have a focal point, a physical presence or a clinical finisher.

Stop gaps are potentially expensive and if they flop, they’re on the books for years and you can’t get rid of them. Short term not signing a striker may hurt us, but in the long run it could and I reckon it will be the right call.

 

[Manchester_lalala]

Surely there is someone playing somewhere not costing £100m that could lead the line for us. We put in plenty of balls yesterday that any striker worthy of the name would have gobbled up

Perhaps Danny Ings, but again, he’s not the answer long term and he’d likely be on a 3/4 year contract. We’d always be looking at signing a new striker next summer with Ings on the books taking up wages.

 

[blueparrot]

A stop gap would have improved the team in so far as at the moment we don't have a focal point, a physical presence or a clinical finisher.

Might might not, they might disrupt our passing so we create less. They then are hard to move on blocking the right striker being bought when available, because the the money is spent or squad numbers not right. Sounds pretty much the short term planning united have followed for a few years. We look further ahead than that, we know what we want and are prepared to wait, and if we don’t win the league this year but are better long term then so be it.
Whatever the reason, the club had a reason, and their record has earned some sort of trust.

 

[Deleted member 87819]

From what we know, based on reliable sources, at different points we made moves in the direction of signing Haaland, Kane and Vlahovic. For different reasons, couldn’t get any of them done. It was never Kane or bust and we weren’t that precious about a name either. We wanted a striker and failed.

 

[blueparrot]

From what we know, based on reliable sources, at different points we made moves in the direction of signing Haaland, Kane and Vlahovic. For different reasons, couldn’t get any of them done. It was never Kane or bust and we weren’t that precious about a name either. We wanted a striker and failed.

Which reliable sources, not come across many of them for quite a few years now.

 

[Deleted member 87819]

Which reliable sources, not come across many of them for quite a few years now.

Okay. I’m not playing this game. I know how to interpret media and sources myself, and if people want to do the same and come to different conclusions, they’re allowed to do it. I can only speak for myself

 

[decmancity]

Fernandinho shouldn't have been given another contract. As amazing as he has been the club went the sentimental route. He's really starting to show his age and slow down.

Gundogan isn't good as a DM. That leaves Rodri and if he's injured...

We needed an energetic and faster paced DM.

Mendy isn't good enough.

I agree that we should be anticipating weaknesses rather reacting. For all the money spent we're weak at Striker, DM and LB.

I partly agree with Fernandinho. Yesterday was terrible but hopefully just a one off.

Well Pep has played Gundo there before and we had success so Pep definitely trusts him.

Whilst I think a lot of people want an "energetic midfield". Pep has never looked at doing things that way. His Barca and Bayern midfields were slow as fuck. Our midfield is the same.

Doesn't matter if Mendy is good enough or not, we can't sell him and now he's in court our hands are tied till it's resolved. We simply couldn't have financed a LB as we were.

 

[Deleted member 87819]

We simply couldn't have financed a LB as we were.

Do you really believe this?

 

[117 M34]

I partly agree with Fernandinho. Yesterday was terrible but hopefully just a one off.

Well Pep has played Gundo there before and we had success so Pep definitely trusts him.

Whilst I think a lot of people want an "energetic midfield". Pep has never looked at doing things that way. His Barca and Bayern midfields were slow as fuck. Our midfield is the same.

Doesn't matter if Mendy is good enough or not, we can't sell him and now he's in court our hands are tied till it's resolved. We simply couldn't have financed a LB as we were.

I was hoping his performance in the spurs game was a one off

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

I partly agree with Fernandinho. Yesterday was terrible but hopefully just a one off.

Well Pep has played Gundo there before and we had success so Pep definitely trusts him.

Whilst I think a lot of people want an "energetic midfield". Pep has never looked at doing things that way. His Barca and Bayern midfields were slow as fuck. Our midfield is the same.

Doesn't matter if Mendy is good enough or not, we can't sell him and now he's in court our hands are tied till it's resolved. We simply couldn't have financed a LB as we were.

We had £100m+ we didn't spend on Kane. Could buy any LB in the world + Bissouma or Camavinga for that.

 

[Deleted member 87819]

We had £100m+ we didn't spend on Kane. Could buy any LB in the world + Bissouma or Camavinga for that.

Just see the deal PSG made for Mendes

 

[decmancity]

We had £100m+ we didn't spend on Kane. Could buy any LB in the world + Bissouma or Camavinga for that.

That money is marked for a striker, so if thats Haaland or Vlahovic or whatever.

Yeah we could have done but we haven't bought a LB since Mendy. Pep clearly doesn't see it as an issue, rightly or wrongly he just isn't interested. We played Delph there ffs.

I think Bissouma is decent but as I said, Pep has made no intention of signing someone like him. I also think we have thrown our efforts into Lavia.

 

[heslops barnet]

I was hoping his performance in the spurs game was a one off

Think we’ve been here before…..no room for sentimentality

 

[blueparrot]

We had £100m+ we didn't spend on Kane. Could buy any LB in the world + Bissouma or Camavinga for that.

Could we? I presume at some point we will still buy a striker and the £100 mill is earmarked for that, or the £20 mill or so per year amortised figure. If so it isn’t available to spend twice.
I don’t know our books well enough after covid losses to know our budget over the next couple of years for a Fernandinho replacement or a left back but not buying Kane doesn’t suddenly mean its free money lying about.