It's Quiet Thread 15 - Txiki Blinders

[Jokithedruid]

No Jack no party for you?

I mean... Look at those calves, look at the hair...

 

[SPIDERBOY]

thing with premier clubs the top ones with huge fan base the banks know they good for it in the long term even if it take 50 years to pay it…

Dunno how all this loan stuff works mate.....it's a hell of a lot of money though.

 

[waspish]

With the loans yes but with the Inland Revenue payment of £96M is with the government. The government have already given them an extension to pay it back and if they don't I'm pretty sure the government can ask it back anytime.

Also they have £140M in unpaid transfer fees they owe. How long before clubs start asking for that?

another 200m loan? Seems that what the Glazers do ;)

 

[M12Blue]

70/80m plus Jesus for kane is a fantastic deal for us and Spurs because Jesus at spurs playing every game he will score 25+ goals..

These statements confuse me, if playing every game for spurs he bags 25+, then why won't he score similar or more for us.
I'm not saying Jesus the answer but what you say doesn't make sense, unless we meed a striker to score 40+

 

[BamberBridgeBlue]

This is tedious but, out of respect for a fellow blue, I’ll try to spell it out again.

If, as you describe, a player goes to another club with an initial fee for the first year and a binding commitment between the clubs for a completion fee to be paid thereafter - then that is in effect a sale with staged payment, not a loan.
Lots of player sales involved staged payments, they delay a part of a payment and they ultimately cost a little bit more because financing the initial difference has a cost.

I think that you’re confused by situations where we’ve loaned players out and agreed that the loaning club can purchase the loaned player for a set fee at the end of the loan period - but only if they choose to do so.
That’s a loan not sale as there’s no absolute commitment beyond the loan.

If you can’t grasp the above then let’s agree to differ because if you can’t understand the difference between a loan and a sale then there’s no point in conversation.

Your benevolence imparting your wisdom is duly noted.

 

[OccupiedPalestineBlues]

thanks for explanation..

No worries mate.
The way we think about sales and loans is poisoned by lazy journalism.

We read the news and everybody says that we buy players when, in fact, we never buy a player, we lease their services for an agreed period.
Everybody says we sell players but we don’t, we agree to terminate the lease contract between the player and us, by accepting a fee so that the player can then be leased by a different club.
And then we all talk at odds with each other because the language we use is at odds with what actually happens.

 

[SPIDERBOY]

another 200m loan? Seems that what the Glazers do ;)

Had a £175m loan off the Bank of England too.
That followed the £637m loan from HSBC,Goldman Sachs and Bank of America.

 

[Blue tiger]

The way we came to acquire Dais is the way we operate. Stupid to put all of our eggs in one basket and if we can't get our initial target then we will move onto another. No way we start next season with just Jesus as our option up

The way we came to acquire Dais is the way we operate. Stupid to put all of our eggs in one basket and if we can't get our initial target then we will move onto another. No way we start next season with just Jesus as our option up top.

Yea but we signed him a whole 12 months after Vinnie left due to the fact at the time of Vinnie going no one was available. As much as we loved Sergio, his contribution over the last 18 months was minimal due to Injury and Covid. Why buy an Ings or a Silva for the sake of it. If we cant get Kane or Haaland I'd rather us buy a high quality DM and a actual LB and use Torres and Delap as strikers.

 

[waspish]

These statements confuse me, if playing every game for spurs he bags 25+, then why won't he score similar or more for us.
I'm not saying Jesus the answer but what you say doesn't make sense, unless we meed a striker to score 40+

a player mentality is different if your number one striker playing every week in different system that Suits a player plus taking the pens is why IMO he will score 25+ goals a season

 

[andyhinch]

This is tedious but, out of respect for a fellow blue, I’ll try to spell it out again.

If, as you describe, a player goes to another club with an initial fee for the first year and a binding commitment between the clubs for a completion fee to be paid thereafter - then that is in effect a sale with staged payment, not a loan.
Lots of player sales involved staged payments, they delay a part of a payment and they ultimately cost a little bit more because financing the initial difference has a cost.

I think that you’re confused by situations where we’ve loaned players out and agreed that the loaning club can purchase the loaned player for a set fee at the end of the loan period - but only if they choose to do so.
That’s a loan not sale as there’s no absolute commitment beyond the loan.

If you can’t grasp the above then let’s agree to differ because if you can’t understand the difference between a loan and a sale then there’s no point in conversation.

So your saying a loan isn’t the same as a sale ? Fuck me you learn something new every day.