Jack Grealish | Set to join Everton on season-long loan

[bell_mcfc]

Some people on here really make me laugh. They are acting like Jack is Gazza.

There’s a difference between having a drinking problem/being an alcoholic and not always being a professional.

 

[Coatigan]

Surely some of that depends on the context of what you are classing as a “drinking problem”, does it not?

Is there a definition of exactly what is classed as a problem?

If you were told in your work environment you had a drinking problem, what would You take it to be? Would you debate technicalities?

 

[Damocles]

Honest question pal. Well two.

1. Do you genuinely believe Jack has a drinking problem? Not as some flippant careless thing to say on bluemoon when trying to shit on the player, but a proper actual problem.

yes

2. Have you ever known or encountered someone with a real drinking problem? That's not meant to be patronising or contentious, just gaging the context here.

yes

 

[Coatigan]

yes



yes

Lol. Well played mate.

But yeah we both know at keast one of those is horseshit, jokes are always fun though.

 

[twosips]

Only fair that a few would be in denial re Grealish given they've likely not heard the stories that some have from people they have absolutely no reason to doubt. It really isn't hard to read between the lines. The England stuff was the biggest public indicator.

 

[r.soleofsalford]

Lol. Well played mate.

But yeah we both know at keast one of those is horseshit, jokes are always fun though.

Which ones horse shit

 

[SWPISHOME]

He's far too good for Everton, Disappointed Jack is going, on his day he's a wonderful player to watch and a player that can offer the team alot.

It's a shame that whatever is going on can't be addressed for him to stay at the club and play for us.

Anyway, treble winning Jack was fucking mint. Well worth the £100m for that alone. People can say all they like about his price tag, that season he was fucking quality and helped us to a treble. Happy fucking days.

 

[Coatigan]

Which ones horse shit

Take your pick.

Anyone who thinks Jack has a dtinking problem, hasn't got a clue what a drinking problem is. Anyone who knows what a drinking problem is, can't possibly think Jack has one.

I don't actually believe anyone that says they think he has one. They are just being bluemoon mindless, really.

 

[Dazzle84]

Only fair that a few would be in denial re Grealish given they've likely not heard the stories that some have from people they have absolutely no reason to doubt. It really isn't hard to read between the lines. The England stuff was the biggest public indicator.

This type of comment is frustrating - and I definitely don't mean this as a dig at you btw

Something looks to have gone on, but the majority of us are in the dark and reliant on conjecture. Re: the England stuff I'm not sure what's meant to have gone on? I remember him playing really well in one of Carsley's games

The "England stuff" would have been around the time our form fell off a cliff and Walker gave away a goal a game (seemingly from memory, probably not quite that) so was there a big to-do last year or not?

I also get that people probably can't really say. Still frustrating.

 

[doobyedoobye]

I think the lad has attracted a lot of attention over his career but I've heard nothing that would suggest his lifestyle is that different from plenty of players

 

[twosips]

This type of comment is frustrating - and I definitely don't mean this as a dig at you btw

Something looks to have gone on, but the majority of us are in the dark and reliant on conjecture. Re: the England stuff I'm not sure what's meant to have gone on? I remember him playing really well in one of Carsley's games

The "England stuff" would have been around the time our form fell off a cliff and Walker gave away a goal a game (seemingly from memory, probably not quite that) so was there a big to-do last year or not?

I also get that people probably can't really say. Still frustrating.

I absolutely get that mate. Sorry! Just genuinely a bit fearful of who is reading this! I know people are paying attention. The England stuff was Guardiola making it quite clear that he didn't see Jack as 'fit', and Grealish immediately turning up for England looking like there was nowt wrong and Pep was clearly not happy about it. There was clearly waaaay more to it than being let on.

 

[Dazzle84]

I absolutely get that mate. Sorry! Just genuinely a bit fearful of who is reading this! I know people are paying attention. The England stuff was Guardiola making it quite clear that he didn't see Jack as 'fit', and Grealish immediately turning up for England looking like there was nowt wrong and Pep was clearly not happy about it. There was clearly waaaay more to it than being let on.

Yeah, I was moaning about the situation rather than yours/others comments. The whole place stank for months last season so was pretty clear some stuff had happened.

Maybe we'll find out in jack's book!

 

[bell_mcfc]

I absolutely get that mate. Sorry! Just genuinely a bit fearful of who is reading this! I know people are paying attention. The England stuff was Guardiola making it quite clear that he didn't see Jack as 'fit', and Grealish immediately turning up for England looking like there was nowt wrong and Pep was clearly not happy about it. There was clearly waaaay more to it than being let on.

Yeah there’s clearly stuff going on but I think some people need to be careful how much they label Jack as having a drinking problem.

At City he’s held to the very highest standard, from the greatest manager of all time. He may have slipped up a few times but he’s human, and that’s one thing everyone loves about Jack.

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

Honest question pal. Well two.

1. Do you genuinely believe Jack has a drinking problem? Not as some flippant careless thing to say on bluemoon when trying to shit on the player, but a proper actual problem.

2. Have you ever known or encountered someone with a real drinking problem? That's not meant to be patronising or contentious, just gaging the context here.

Btw, if both happen to be yes, one of them is definitely bollocks then.

I don't know if he still has a drinking problem but him being caught shitfaced several times by the paparazzi hasn't helped Grealish.

I know several people with drinking problems. I had a drinking problem 25 years ago drinking 10 to 15 pints a night. I worked all day and drank in the evenings. I was what is now termed a functioning alcoholic.

 

[Coatigan]

Yeah there’s clearly stuff going on but I think some people need to be careful how much they label Jack as having a drinking problem.

At City he’s held to the very highest standard, from the greatest manager of all time. He may have slipped up a few times but he’s human, and that’s one thing everyone loves about Jack.

Exactly. If Jack did indeed have a drinking problem, in all fairness I would be more disappointed with the club, than with him. Sometimes it is almost as if people don't actually listen to Pep or the club.

I don't know if he still has a drinking problem but him being caught shitfaced several times by the paparazzi hasn't helped Grealish.

I know several people with drinking problems. I had a drinking problem 25 years ago drinking 10 to 15 pints a night. I worked all day and drank in the evenings. I was what is now termed a functioning alcoholic.

Then you know fine well Jack hasn't got that problem and doesn't merit that label. Glad it is in the past with you bud, but paparazzi getting photos of Jack outside clubs in his off time is some distance away from a drinking problem. Not in any way condoning it or the attitude, but c'mon people, a bit of sense and balance.

 

[madloaf]

Exactly. If Jack did indeed have a drinking problem, in all fairness I would be more disappointed with the club, than with him. Sometimes it is almost as if people don't actually listen to Pep or the club.


Then you know fine well Jack hasn't got that problem and doesn't merit that label. Glad it is in the past with you bud, but paparazzi getting photos of Jack outside clubs in his off time is some distance away from a drinking problem. Not in any way condoning it or the attitude, but c'mon people, a bit of sense and balance.

Sense and balance. On the Internet. God loves a tryer.

 

[HolisticJim]

He was never worth £100m. Never ever.. And we bought him and played him out of position for pretty much his entire City career.

I hope he is moved on but don't think we really helped him.

 

[r.soleofsalford]

Take your pick.

Anyone who thinks Jack has a dtinking problem, hasn't got a clue what a drinking problem is. Anyone who knows what a drinking problem is, can't possibly think Jack has one.

I don't actually believe anyone that says they think he has one. They are just being bluemoon mindless, really.

Anyone who`s been a regular in pubs, social clubs or sports clubs over the years and had a drinking problem themselves and saw the state Jack got himself at the end of season celebrations knows what a drinking problem is.

Whether his drinking problem started when his form dipped or whether his form dipped because of his drinking problem I don`t particular know. I do know he was know for heavy drinking at Villa and to this day for his heavy drinking around Alderley Edge.

I`d love the lad to be able to stay but I don`t think it`s possible.

 

[Sheikh rattle and roll]

Some people on here really make me laugh. They are acting like Jack is Gazza.

There’s a difference between having a drinking problem/being an alcoholic and not always being a professional.

The difference being Gazza was good

 

[GoatersLeftShin]

I'm assuming that in training he's got some devices on to measure stuff like resting heartbeart, blood pressure etc etc. He will be given advice on what to eat as well and if he's eating kebabs instead of pasta, it will show up on the monitors. I've got a Garmin and I can tell the day after if I've had a couple of beers the night before and it's incredibly accurate.

These lads are supremely fit athletes and every part of them is measured. I know lads who are local runners who won't touch beer/takeaway the week before a run they've no chance of winning as it affects them. Grealish might be packing them away, but if he is then he won't play pro football again and we all know he will.

He's a good player but the biggest problem for him is that he's just not a great player.