Jadon Sancho

[Cobra]

I don't understand this. If he's not signed a professional contract then he's a free agent anyway isn't he?

He's still under scholarship, so the buying club would have to pay us a development fee. And surely he must realise that going on strike doesn't look good to his potential new club anyway - are a club really going to spend millions on a 17 year old who could end up going on strike again in 2-3 years to try and leave them?

 

[bugsyblue]

He's still under scholarship, so the buying club would have to pay us a development fee. And surely he must realise that going on strike doesn't look good to his potential new club anyway - are a club really going to spend millions on a 17 year old who could end up going on strike again in 2-3 years to try and leave them?

When does his scholarship finish? I absolutely agree about him striking, doing himself no favours! But then again, some emotional footballers have been terrific players; Tevez, Cantona etc.

 

[Blue Smarties]

When does his scholarship finish? I absolutely agree about him striking, doing himself no favours! But then again, some emotional footballers have been terrific players; Tevez, Cantona etc.

A year, I think. Trouble with Tevez was that he was already a fully fledged international footballer for Argentina, not 17 years of age without a senior appearance. It's pretty funny that the wee daft'un has gone on strike. Give him a colouring book and a packet of crayons, he'll soon shut the fuck up.

 

[jollylescott]

If he was 19/20 and not getting a look in, I could understand the attitude. But in the case of this lad he is 17, and many problems can arise during his development. City should have been the right environment for him, under Pep's mentorship.

I just think whoever is advising him is not giving him good advice. He's much better off under Pep.

 

[CityStu]

If he was 19/20 and not getting a look in, I could understand the attitude. But in the case of this lad he is 17, and many problems can arise during his development. City should have been the right environment for him, under Pep's mentorship.

I just think whoever is advising him is not giving him good advice. He's much better off under Pep.

But he's looking at the 19/20 year old players we have had and is doubting he'll get a chance at that age, as history shows we loan players out for several seasons before usually selling up.

I think it's a bit arrogant to suggest that the way City are doing things is the right way when we've brought through no academy players of note and we're losing some very talented players like Sancho and Campbell.

FYI, I also think Sancho's being a little shit at the moment by not training - that won't impress anyone.

 

[ganganvince]

But he's looking at the 19/20 year old players we have had and is doubting he'll get a chance at that age, as history shows we loan players out for several seasons before usually selling up.

I think it's a bit arrogant to suggest that the way City are doing things is the right way when we've brought through no academy players of note and we're losing some very talented players like Sancho and Campbell.

FYI, I also think Sancho's being a little shit at the moment by not training - that won't impress anyone.

What we need to remember is after we loan these players out and sell on they are not euphanised but have a chance of an excellent career In one of Europe's top leagues with an A1 education to fall back on

 

[oldius]

We have to build a trust between the club and the Academy players. That can only happen through both sides delivering on their promises: exceptional talents given game time, and the players committing themselves.

Once that exceptional crop starts to play regularly, this issue should be done. Foden and Diaz can be huge catalysts here.

 

[CityStu]

What we need to remember is after we loan these players out and sell on they are not euphanised but have a chance of an excellent career In one of Europe's top leagues with an A1 education to fall back on

At the moment I think our methods are great for next tier down players who will generally find their place at mid-level Prem or below stature sides. I think we have to be a bit more flexible if a true world class talent comes along because they'll be wanting to play for a much superior side to Twente or Girona when they're 18/19/20. Sterling was playing at Liverpool, Sane Schalke, Mbappe Monaco, etc. Sancho puts himself at that level (and fair play to him for having that confidence) and has seen others at City who could have been at that level (Denayer, Roberts) ignored.

I also don't think there's much to lose by giving some of those next tier down players the odd minute here or there. Our first team squad has typically had plenty of players at that level (Delph, Fernando, Demichelis, Navas, etc.) so no harm trying a kid and reaping the benefits if they turn out to be better than we thought.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

He's nowhere near as good as Sturridge was at the same age. He has potential and his career could go either way. Going on strike is not a good omen for his future development.

 

[bugsyblue]

A year, I think. Trouble with Tevez was that he was already a fully fledged international footballer for Argentina, not 17 years of age without a senior appearance. It's pretty funny that the wee daft'un has gone on strike. Give him a colouring book and a packet of crayons, he'll soon shut the fuck up.

A year, are you sure? I thought when players turned 17 they had be offered a professional contract or they were free? I'm not sure scholarships can continue after they turn 17?

 

[greasedupdeafguy]

Dont blame him tbf the club hasn't shown any type of indication that youth will be given a chance over the past few years. Hoping things change a bit this season with Foden, Tosin and Brahim.

 

[Otamendi's Beard]

I don't blame him for wanting to move on but his conduct is appalling.

Imagine what he'd be like after ten promising appearances in the first team, or an England cap, he'd be demanding pay rises every single summer and his agents would be pressurising the club at every opportunity.

Let him become someone else's spoilt brat and we can all laugh our cocks off when he does the dirty on them too.

 

[br88]

Am beginning to turn against Sancho and this reasoning involving lack of first team chances. He is just 17 for Christ's sake and clearly wants away....most probably to London. I have no argument with the lad if he raises this problem when he is 18 or 19. Foden and Diaz are the best young prospects we have had in years along with Sancho. In all honesty the reason our youth has not been getting into the first team in recent times is because they have not been good enough. It needs a special young player to make it in this City team and the three young lads mentioned above are certainly special. I think Sancho would flourish over the next year or two under Pep and I really hope he decides to stay.

 

[CityStu]

Am beginning to turn against Sancho and this reasoning involving lack of first team chances. He is just 17 for Christ's sake and clearly wants away....most probably to London. I have no argument with the lad if he raises this problem when he is 18 or 19. Foden and Diaz are the best young prospects we have had in years along with Sancho. In all honesty the reason our youth has not been getting into the first team in recent times is because they have not been good enough. It needs a special young player to make it in this City team and the three young lads mentioned above are certainly special. I think Sancho would flourish over the next year or two under Pep and I really hope he decides to stay.

The thing is, in 2/3 years time, if Foden and Diaz haven't had any playing time, your argument can remain exactly the same. Foden and Diaz just weren't good enough and we need to wait for someone truly truly exceptional.

I think we've had plenty of players coming through in recent years who looked exceptional at the time (particularly Barker) and back then their first team counterparts weren't quite so impressive (should be easier to depose Navas than Sane).

I also don't think that playing a potentially sub standard youngster for 10/15 minutes as one player in a team of 11 would have any significant negative effect on the team performance. Several shite players have had heroic moments in the Premier League.

 

[taleofbluehalves]

Taking him to the US tour and trying to convince him was better than isolating him.

Anyway, Barcelona just lost Neymar and we are about to lose Sancho.

Its fine we can live with it.



Good luck to him wherever he goes.

Not signing was a bad decision. He probably knows it. He should have signed and gone on tour. Had things not opened up he could still move on in 12 months time.
Not signing and now not training doesn't look good. I wonder who's advising him?

 

[Neville Kneville]

Am beginning to turn against Sancho and this reasoning involving lack of first team chances. He is just 17 for Christ's sake and clearly wants away....most probably to London. I have no argument with the lad if he raises this problem when he is 18 or 19. Foden and Diaz are the best young prospects we have had in years along with Sancho. In all honesty the reason our youth has not been getting into the first team in recent times is because they have not been good enough. It needs a special young player to make it in this City team and the three young lads mentioned above are certainly special. I think Sancho would flourish over the next year or two under Pep and I really hope he decides to stay.

It might take a special player to 'make it' in this City team, but it sure as fuck hasn't taken a special player to play in it. We have had loads of very unspecial, senior pros, who have played games for City over the past decade.

So it shouldn't be any different for our own kids.

It's not about them all starting games now, it's about them starting to get minutes on the pitch, here & there, to see if they might have what it takes to start games in the future.

If hardly any get on, then it is a a warning to the younger kids that they might not get a chance when they are older.

This point is so simple & so obvious, I don't understand why people still don't get it.

 

[Sir peace frog]

I would love to see a debate in the style of Alas Smith and Jones
with nev knev and pep , think it would be really interesting



whats happened to my writing ?

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Dont blame him tbf the club hasn't shown any type of indication that youth will be given a chance over the past few years. Hoping things change a bit this season with Foden, Tosin and Brahim.

I keep reading this sort of "can't blame the lad" stuff and it's frankly drivel.

1. The Academy has only been up and running 3 years
2. It takes time for Pep's coaching methods to take effect
3. There was no-one really good enough coming through in the first couple of years
4. Sancho's 'year' has been widely touted for a long time as the first containing youngsters of sufficient quality to make the eventual transition to the first team, the holy trinity of which have been Diaz, Foden and Sancho himself.
5. The club has already given debuts to Diaz and Foden and made it abundantly clear that Sancho, who remember has only just turned 17, would be getting his chance shortly
6. City have offered this 17 year old £30k a week, an absolutely unprecedented sum for one so young
7. In short the club could not have done more to intimate to Sancho that they considered him an outstanding prospect and that they regarded him as first team material in the making

If Sancho himself believes that his path to the first team is blocked and that he would be better off elsewhere, then that in itself would be depressing enough, but the fact is his path isn't 'blocked' and he is chucking in the towel at just 17 years old. If he was 19 or 20 and he still hadn't played for the first team you could maybe understand it, but 17?!!
The simple truth is that he's a Billy Big B*ll*x, who's had Spurs and Arsenal whispering in his ear for some considerable time and he sees them as a means to returning to London, whilst still milking the accolades for being on the books at a high profile club. The reality is that he won't get in the Spurs first team any quicker than he'd get into City's, and if his return to London was on the basis of his signing for say Fulham or Brentford, where he might (and I stress 'might') get into the first team now, then again I 'might' be able to cut him some slack. However, he won't be knocking on the door at Craven Cottage any time soon, and as things stand he's a badly advised, self indulgent, prat, who has shown complete contempt for our club and the opportunities we have afforded him, and would have continued to afford him, by walking out with his 17 year old nose in the air. Can't blame the lad? I absolutely can and do. Wish him good luck? He can get stuffed

 

[Cobra]

1. The Academy has only been up and running 3 years

Erm, no it hasn't. We moved the academy to a shiny new building 3 years ago but the academy has been going for a long time.

 

[ganganvince]

Not signing was a bad decision. He probably knows it. He should have signed and gone on tour. Had things not opened up he could still move on in 12 months time.
Not signing and now not training doesn't look good. I wonder who's advising him?

I think his dad is also his agent