tolmie's hairdoo said:RandomJ said:tolmie's hairdoo said:We're better with him, than without, but he is getting a seriously easy ride from our fans.
He should not be able to hold a gun to our heads and he has manufactured this situation for over 12 months, which is cynical. He's got form for it, too. Having jumped from club to club with Villa and Newcastle.
He's done a Micah, except he's actually worth a considerable amount of money to the club on the open market, and could end up costing us £15m.
We can't even call his bluff in January, unless he is part of a makeweight and to a club that he considers acceptable.
If he had any serious loyalty, he would sign that contract and we would both agree to a lower than normal buyout clause next summer. He won't because it will impact his options and he can make even more money as a free transfer.
I would go all in and offer him to Everton plus cash for Barkley this January.
I'm sorry but he's not holding a gun to our heads. He isn't some spoilt first team player after a pay rise he is a model professional that has given his all for our club despite the fact that numerous managers have played him one week and then dropped him to the bench even if he played really well. He went from the star man at Villa where everyone was saying what a good player he was to a bench warmer where the idiotic casual England fan moans when he gets subbed on in an England match.
The guy is 28, now entering the peak years of his career and he just wants to play football. I really don't see what your issues are with a player desperate to get on the pitch and play for our club. Would you perhaps prefer he just sign a nice juicy 5 year contract and just sit on the bench giving no effort and leeching wages off us? I don't think he wants to play every minute of every single game I think he just wants a fair run in the first team to show what he is about. He's sick of being used as a late sub to kill off a game or being given one game where he runs himself into the ground only to be shoved back on the bench for the next 3 games while Nasri just jogs round the pitch doing nothing.
Theres no gun holding going on here this is a problem that has been caused by the club overlooking him for so long and he has finally got sick of it. Pellegrini can either show some trust in him and show he values him as a player and give him a run in the team or we sell him in January. It's Milners career at the end of the day he has to do whats best for him.
Of course he's holding a gun to our head, it's just a polite way of me avoiding the use of the word blackmail.
When someone is imposing conditions, in relation to their continued service, he is holding the cards.
Nowhere did I say that we were better off without him, or that he wasn't a model pro when it comes to effort.
It's exactly because of that, he's getting off lightly to perhaps other players who chose to go down the same route.
What stopped him signing 12 months ago, unless you feel City were so shortsighted they have only just approached him?
He's playing the game to the best of his advantage, and he knew his stance would only exert more pressure.
Jimmy is a top squad player but it's hardly a one way street, he's well paid, has every domestic medal in his locker and gets enough game time.
He wants it both ways, but much as I rate him, he's no different to any other footballer, looking out for No.1.
Puppet Master Silva said:tolmie's hairdoo said:RandomJ said:I'm sorry but he's not holding a gun to our heads. He isn't some spoilt first team player after a pay rise he is a model professional that has given his all for our club despite the fact that numerous managers have played him one week and then dropped him to the bench even if he played really well. He went from the star man at Villa where everyone was saying what a good player he was to a bench warmer where the idiotic casual England fan moans when he gets subbed on in an England match.
The guy is 28, now entering the peak years of his career and he just wants to play football. I really don't see what your issues are with a player desperate to get on the pitch and play for our club. Would you perhaps prefer he just sign a nice juicy 5 year contract and just sit on the bench giving no effort and leeching wages off us? I don't think he wants to play every minute of every single game I think he just wants a fair run in the first team to show what he is about. He's sick of being used as a late sub to kill off a game or being given one game where he runs himself into the ground only to be shoved back on the bench for the next 3 games while Nasri just jogs round the pitch doing nothing.
Theres no gun holding going on here this is a problem that has been caused by the club overlooking him for so long and he has finally got sick of it. Pellegrini can either show some trust in him and show he values him as a player and give him a run in the team or we sell him in January. It's Milners career at the end of the day he has to do whats best for him.
Of course he's holding a gun to our head, it's just a polite way of me avoidinig the use of the word blackmail.
When someone is imposing conditions, in relation to their continued service, he is holding the cards.
Nowhere did I say that we were better off without him, or that he wasn't a model pro when it comes to effort.
It's exactly because of that, he's getting off lightly to perhaps other players who chose to go down the same route.
What stopped him signing 12 months ago, unless you feel City were so shortsighted they have only just approached him?
He's playing the game to the best of his advantage, and he knew his stance would only exert more pressure.
Jimmy is a top squad player but it's hardly a one way street, he's well paid, has every domestic medal in his locker and gets enough game time.
He wants it both ways, but much as I rate him, he's no different to any other footballer, looking out for No.1.
So Micah was holding a gun to our head too? Given that he was offered a new contract but just wanted to play. His conditions are perfectly reasonable, he's at the stage of his career where he wants to be playing as much as possible. You even allude to blackmail which is fairly embarrassing in itself, he wants to play
football so he's blackmailing us.
He's just been interviewed in the pre match, says he's happy to play for City, loves every minute, and that he's not worried about competition for places, but wants to play more games, he said this 2, or 3 times, and also mentioned he's still got 1year on his contract ....tolmie's hairdoo said:Puppet Master Silva said:tolmie's hairdoo said:Of course he's holding a gun to our head, it's just a polite way of me avoidinig the use of the word blackmail.
When someone is imposing conditions, in relation to their continued service, he is holding the cards.
Nowhere did I say that we were better off without him, or that he wasn't a model pro when it comes to effort.
It's exactly because of that, he's getting off lightly to perhaps other players who chose to go down the same route.
What stopped him signing 12 months ago, unless you feel City were so shortsighted they have only just approached him?
He's playing the game to the best of his advantage, and he knew his stance would only exert more pressure.
Jimmy is a top squad player but it's hardly a one way street, he's well paid, has every domestic medal in his locker and gets enough game time.
He wants it both ways, but much as I rate him, he's no different to any other footballer, looking out for No.1.
So Micah was holding a gun to our head too? Given that he was offered a new contract but just wanted to play. His conditions are perfectly reasonable, he's at the stage of his career where he wants to be playing as much as possible. You even allude to blackmail which is fairly embarrassing in itself, he wants to play
football so he's blackmailing us.
Nothing embarrassing about it, as you want to label it.
Micah ran his contract down on purpose because he knew he was leaving.
I know for a fact he twice attempted to leave in the 12 months prior, again, to Italy, as I tried to help him out!!
Let me be clear, I think Milner is a top player but City should always come first.
Micah's game has cost City best part of realising an £8m transfer fee.
Milner is now saying he's off if he doesn't get enough game time, which is mightily convenient, considering he could also have taken this stance two years ago, but that would have meant a fee on top of his wages.
Call it what you want, it's blackmail in my book because he has leveraged the position in the knowledge City don't want to lose him for nothing.
He had over 30 appearances last season, how many games he wants then? Granted all were not starts, but still. over 30 times on a double winning side and still not happy?Bewar3them00n said:He's just been interviewed in the pre match, says he's happy to play for City, loves every minute, and that he's not worried about competition for places, but wants to play more games, he said this 2, or 3 times, and also mentioned he's still got 1year on his contract ....tolmie's hairdoo said:Puppet Master Silva said:So Micah was holding a gun to our head too? Given that he was offered a new contract but just wanted to play. His conditions are perfectly reasonable, he's at the stage of his career where he wants to be playing as much as possible. You even allude to blackmail which is fairly embarrassing in itself, he wants to play
football so he's blackmailing us.
Nothing embarrassing about it, as you want to label it.
Micah ran his contract down on purpose because he knew he was leaving.
I know for a fact he twice attempted to leave in the 12 months prior, again, to Italy, as I tried to help him out!!
Let me be clear, I think Milner is a top player but City should always come first.
Micah's game has cost City best part of realising an £8m transfer fee.
Milner is now saying he's off if he doesn't get enough game time, which is mightily convenient, considering he could also have taken this stance two years ago, but that would have meant a fee on top of his wages.
Call it what you want, it's blackmail in my book because he has leveraged the position in the knowledge City don't want to lose him for nothing.
tolmie's hairdoo said:Puppet Master Silva said:tolmie's hairdoo said:Of course he's holding a gun to our head, it's just a polite way of me avoidinig the use of the word blackmail.
When someone is imposing conditions, in relation to their continued service, he is holding the cards.
Nowhere did I say that we were better off without him, or that he wasn't a model pro when it comes to effort.
It's exactly because of that, he's getting off lightly to perhaps other players who chose to go down the same route.
What stopped him signing 12 months ago, unless you feel City were so shortsighted they have only just approached him?
He's playing the game to the best of his advantage, and he knew his stance would only exert more pressure.
Jimmy is a top squad player but it's hardly a one way street, he's well paid, has every domestic medal in his locker and gets enough game time.
He wants it both ways, but much as I rate him, he's no different to any other footballer, looking out for No.1.
So Micah was holding a gun to our head too? Given that he was offered a new contract but just wanted to play. His conditions are perfectly reasonable, he's at the stage of his career where he wants to be playing as much as possible. You even allude to blackmail which is fairly embarrassing in itself, he wants to play
football so he's blackmailing us.
Nothing embarrassing about it, as you want to label it.
Micah ran his contract down on purpose because he knew he was leaving.
I know for a fact he twice attempted to leave in the 12 months prior, again, to Italy, as I tried to help him out!!
Let me be clear, I think Milner is a top player but City should always come first.
Micah's game has cost City best part of realising an £8m transfer fee.
Milner is now saying he's off if he doesn't get enough game time, which is mightily convenient, considering he could also have taken this stance two years ago, but that would have meant a fee on top of his wages.
Call it what you want, it's blackmail in my book because he has leveraged the position in the knowledge City don't want to lose him for nothing.
MeatHunterrr said:He had over 30 appearances last season, how many games he wants then? Granted all were not starts, but still. over 30 times on a double winning side and still not happy?Bewar3them00n said:He's just been interviewed in the pre match, says he's happy to play for City, loves every minute, and that he's not worried about competition for places, but wants to play more games, he said this 2, or 3 times, and also mentioned he's still got 1year on his contract ....tolmie's hairdoo said:Nothing embarrassing about it, as you want to label it.
Micah ran his contract down on purpose because he knew he was leaving.
I know for a fact he twice attempted to leave in the 12 months prior, again, to Italy, as I tried to help him out!!
Let me be clear, I think Milner is a top player but City should always come first.
Micah's game has cost City best part of realising an £8m transfer fee.
Milner is now saying he's off if he doesn't get enough game time, which is mightily convenient, considering he could also have taken this stance two years ago, but that would have meant a fee on top of his wages.
Call it what you want, it's blackmail in my book because he has leveraged the position in the knowledge City don't want to lose him for nothing.
Davs 19 said:tolmie's hairdoo said:Puppet Master Silva said:So Micah was holding a gun to our head too? Given that he was offered a new contract but just wanted to play. His conditions are perfectly reasonable, he's at the stage of his career where he wants to be playing as much as possible. You even allude to blackmail which is fairly embarrassing in itself, he wants to play
football so he's blackmailing us.
Nothing embarrassing about it, as you want to label it.
Micah ran his contract down on purpose because he knew he was leaving.
I know for a fact he twice attempted to leave in the 12 months prior, again, to Italy, as I tried to help him out!!
Let me be clear, I think Milner is a top player but City should always come first.
Micah's game has cost City best part of realising an £8m transfer fee.
Milner is now saying he's off if he doesn't get enough game time, which is mightily convenient, considering he could also have taken this stance two years ago, but that would have meant a fee on top of his wages.
Call it what you want, it's blackmail in my book because he has leveraged the position in the knowledge City don't want to lose him for nothing.
Blackmail ? Really ?
In my book, he's a model pro, honouring his contract, giving 100% every time he walks on the pitch, considering what's best for him and his family as he approaches the latter part of his playing career.
All about perspective I guess........
dobobobo said:Davs 19 said:tolmie's hairdoo said:Nothing embarrassing about it, as you want to label it.
Micah ran his contract down on purpose because he knew he was leaving.
I know for a fact he twice attempted to leave in the 12 months prior, again, to Italy, as I tried to help him out!!
Let me be clear, I think Milner is a top player but City should always come first.
Micah's game has cost City best part of realising an £8m transfer fee.
Milner is now saying he's off if he doesn't get enough game time, which is mightily convenient, considering he could also have taken this stance two years ago, but that would have meant a fee on top of his wages.
Call it what you want, it's blackmail in my book because he has leveraged the position in the knowledge City don't want to lose him for nothing.
Blackmail ? Really ?
In my book, he's a model pro, honouring his contract, giving 100% every time he walks on the pitch, considering what's best for him and his family as he approaches the latter part of his playing career.
All about perspective I guess........
...and knowing the definition of the word blackmail.
Davs 19 said:dobobobo said:Davs 19 said:[/b]
Blackmail ? Really ?
In my book, he's a model pro, honouring his contract, giving 100% every time he walks on the pitch, considering what's best for him and his family as he approaches the latter part of his playing career.
All about perspective I guess........
...and knowing the definition of the word blackmail.
blackmail
ˈblakmeɪl/
noun
1.
the action, treated as a criminal offence, of demanding money from someone in return for not revealing compromising information which one has about them.
dobobobo said:Davs 19 said:dobobobo said:...and knowing the definition of the word blackmail.
blackmail
ˈblakmeɪl/
noun
1.
the action, treated as a criminal offence, of demanding money from someone in return for not revealing compromising information which one has about them.
I wonder what it is that Boring Milner knows!