Yeah you can look at it that way. I do think clubs are far more committed to playing and developing their own players than loanees, though. They have skin in the game to justify the transfer fee and the make sure the player is successfulA very shrewd way of loaning out a player for a few years ;-)
Don't see it, he left to get Number 1 position to be brought back to not get it straight away! ha
IF, and a big IF thats the case, he would of been better off staying at Burnley another 12 months, the clubs could have arranged for a deal to take place.
Not a chance Trafford sits as number 2, he would of been number 1 at Burnley, number 1 at Newcastle and consistantly plays for england u21s and in the main england squad.
Aren't Villa supposedly asking around £40m for Martinez?No chance Ortega goes for £13m - keepers don't go for a lot anyway but when you factor in his contract situation and the fact clubs now know one of them has to go, we'll get £3/4m for him max IMO.
Viana masterclass
Nice we are run in a sustainable level headed way, unlike some other clubs who are spending like a fat kid in a cake shopIt's a great deal. As good as Ortega has been for us, and let's not forget how we were marvelling at having two world class goalkeepers for the first time in years, to replace him now with a home grown, club trained, international level potential talent, is just a great move.
It also means one less exit from the outfield team so less need to rush something there, as well as the potential to have England's number one represented by city again.
If we now get £13m for Ortega then we're laughing, a net zero deal.
Even Less if they watched Arsenal awayI’d be very surprised if we got that, would say around £5 mill max
We had 3 days to activate the buy back, must have cut it close.Viana masterclass ? Thanks to a Tixi selling him with the right clauses more like ?
Don’t get the 1 hour deadline bit
He did reportedly prevaricate when Wirtz's team asked him about his plans, no idea if there's actually any truth in that thoughWe won't have a squad of 34 when he season starts, it will be 25 ish. 17 NHG, 3 or 4 HG, 3 CT, 2 U21. Can't think of one good reason he'd leave next summer.
I hope he does brilliantly.Great to see him given a chance back with us in the prem after delivering brilliant stats last season
Aren't Villa supposedly asking around £40m for Martinez?
I hope he does brilliantly.
The Prem, as we saw when he last played at that level, is a completely different beast.
Those passing stats will be heavily skewed by the defence he is playing with and the way he is encouraged to play. No doubt his Stats will improve at City. If he can make sensible decisions with his feet and be a better shot stopper then I am happy with that. As people have pointed out, anybody would have been a step down passing wise from Ederson.don't get me wrong, i'm happy he's signed.
but, for what they're worth, his stats with his feet are terrible when compared to either Ederson or Ortega.
It's worth noting that both of these stats are against weaker opposition for Trafford.
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Joe Hart was let go because it was thought he wasn't good enough with his feet.
Bot Hart and Trafford are/were excellent shot stoppers.
Hence me wondering how their stats compare. That's why.
Not to criticize him, just to wonder at Hart being let go.
I just enjoy massively when academy players get the chance
As do I. If they’re good enough.I just enjoy massively when academy players get the chance
Aren't Villa supposedly asking around £40m for Martinez?
Why are people so convinced he would he replacig Ortega, or rather that Ederson is definitely staying.