Jeremy Hunt

[Chippy_boy]

I am, believe it or not apolitical.

I don't particularly support any party I dislike them all and treat them all with equal contempt. Though I am far more socially oriented with a view to wanting to look after and protect others rather than wanting to trample all over everyone to achieve a goal.

If you were to change you view to suggest I thought they are all greedy bastards (Labour are just as bad and are more hypocritical) and are only in it for what they can get out you'd be closer to understanding me. I agree re Corbyn though I do support some of his socialist views but others such as Trident and the Refugee crisis I'm dead against.

Today's politicians and leaders (Tories in particular), in my opinion treat parliament and Government as nothing more than a game and they're rich enough to fuck up and then walk away unscathed. They have no real experience in business and commerce, don't understand what it's like to work for a minimum wage and live off it. I accept these are radical views but unfortunately they reflect my experience of such people. Personally I think they shouldn't be allowed to be an MP until they're at least 30 and should bring some life skills and experience with them.... but hey, I digress and that's a debate for another day.

Interesting comments - thanks for your point of view.

 

[Cityfan]

Not good to hear of these experiences Matty, although I can't say I am surprised in that it's very much in keeping with my own. If ever there was justification for moving to a full 7 day NHS, people can read it right there.

But it's important to understand the difference between bandwidth (aka throughput, capacity) and latency (aka waiting times, backlog). These two are very different things.

What you've described is essentially about latency, i.e. it's a backlog problem, not a capacity problem.

We don't know why unfortunately Matty was so delayed but the chances are that it was a capacity problem.
By and large NHS hospitals do run 7 day trauma services and there are a lot of broken bones operated on over weekends.
The problem with trauma is that it is randomly distribute and does not come in in a steady flow so you can either organise your trauma services to cope with the average or with the peaks. If you cope with the peaks easily you will have significant time when your staff are not working but being paid which is expensive so the usual answer is to get frequent backlogs.
There are other ways of dealing with it better which is to centre your trauma around large centres when the larger numbers tend to even themselves out better but this is politically unpopular.

 

[Chippy_boy]

We don't know why unfortunately Matty was so delayed but the chances are that it was a capacity problem.

Perhaps I didn't explain well what I meant, and I agree - it does look like it was a short term capacity problem. You are always going to get those because demand is likely to vary considerably from day to day, week to week and on occasion there's going to be more demand than capacity and you have the situation Matty described. Unfortunately you can't provide enough capacity for the absolute biggest peaks, or it would cost too much and you'd have resources sitting idle for most of the time. That's an unforunate reality.

My point about capacity in the system being "adequate" was really talking about long term effects. For example, if we need to perform 4 million operations every year in the UK, do we have the capacity to perform 4m operations? The answer to that is yes, we do.

 

[paul_blue]

Reading Matty's post should really make it clear to you that the NHS is not running broadly in line with the nation's need for treatment. Whether it's over 7 days or 5 days, the resources are inadequate for current demand.

7-day working just doesn't involve doctors. When my mum goes for one of her regular appointments at Salford, she needs a porter if one of us can't accompany her, as she's in a wheelchair. Then there's a receptionist to book her in, nurses to control the waiting area, someone to take blood and someone to test that blood, the consultant/registrar and a specialist nurse also need to be there. Then she'll sometimes be sent to see a dietician or need an X-Ray or scan.

As Matty says, to get more done will need more resources, either money, staff or more likely both. And there is, as far as I can see, no intention of providing these. Personally I'd rather have scanners and people to operate them than Trident submarines and their missiles.

Maybe the MP's should also give the NHS the 11% payrise they had last year and the 10% payrise they have just given themselves to help resources in the NHS. Instead of setting it up to fail, and spouting rubbish in the media, that unfortunately most people seem to believe everything they read.

I am 100% fully behind the Junior Doctors on this. Jeremy Hunt and the rest of the MP's are so out of touch with reality it is untrue!! Hunt recently quoted as saying that Junior Doctors lack vocation and are unprofessional. What an absolute first class idiot this is - and he should not be trusted as Health secretary.

You have Cameron recently quoted as saying prisoners should be viewed as potential assets to be harnessed. Well why not try viewing the NHS and the staff that work in the NHS as an asset instead of taking them for granted and having morale at an all time low!!!

 

[hilts]

Maybe the MP's should also give the NHS the 11% payrise they had last year and the 10% payrise they have just given themselves to help resources in the NHS. Instead of setting it up to fail, and spouting rubbish in the media, that unfortunately most people seem to believe everything they read.

I am 100% fully behind the Junior Doctors on this. Jeremy Hunt and the rest of the MP's are so out of touch with reality it is untrue!! Hunt recently quoted as saying that Junior Doctors lack vocation and are unprofessional. What an absolute first class idiot this is - and he should not be trusted as Health secretary.

You have Cameron recently quoted as saying prisoners should be viewed as potential assets to be harnessed. Well why not try viewing the NHS and the staff that work in the NHS as an asset instead of taking them for granted and having morale at an all time low!!!

I have yet to hear any nhs worker say that morale wasnt at an all time low, they seem to have been unhappy since the 70's, the MPs wages are decided by an dependant tribunal, I personally wouldn't give them the steam off my shit but you can hardly blame the mp's.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Hers the proof that Jeremy misrepresented or misinterpreted the research on patient mortality across the seven days of the week http://ind.pn/1Qe536D

 

[worsleyweb]

Hers the proof that Jeremy misrepresented or misinterpreted the research on patient mortality across the seven days of the week http://ind.pn/1Qe536D

An article in that left wing rag is not proof of anything.

 

[Zuriblue]

An article in that left wing rag is not proof of anything.

The "left wing rag" that advised its readers to vote for the coalition last time round?

 

[Tim of the Oak]

An article in that left wing rag is not proof of anything.

It's from the author of the research mate!

 

[worsleyweb]

The "left wing rag" that advised its readers to vote for the coalition last time round?

Do you seriously believe that the independent is not a left wing paper? Read its Wikipedia commentary and then delete your little laughter scene.