Jerry Springer - RIP

[Bigga]

I love that last commentary about 'snobbery'.

I feel like that about BM sometimes, where some posters rule the roost about what can be said or not leading to 'ignore' and bannings, especially when it's not offensive; just a different PoV.

That's why I always thought Springer was dope and many could still learn a lesson from him.

 

[bluke]

What a legend! Actually, two legends.

 

[MCFC Wirral]

Nobody forced these people to go on tv. Like those who sell their stories to Take a Break, they get paid and it makes them briefly famous.

I Refuse To Wear Clothes was a belter (blonde, huge tits) or I’m Proud To Be A Racist where they brought KKK members out denying the holocaust. Jerry was Jewish.

I’ve seen vaguely familiar scenes in toilet pubs in Birkenvegas. 13 kids between 3 of them (multiple fathers) and then they start fighting / crying. Awful people exist.

 

[Bigga]

I'm sure Jerry Springer was a nice guy in private and certainly from the interviews I've seen , he is an intelligent man. He's aware of what he's doing and shows enough to understand the bigger picture.

He made a living from taking vulnerable people, and I dare say struggling actors and putting them on TV as an event. They were people who were not on the same intellectual plane as him and his trade was poking fun at them, goading them and trying to get a reaction from them. His shows tried to dress it up as cod-psychology where they helped people, but make no mistake - you jumped through the hoop of worldwide humiliation before you saw anyone who could help you. Do we know how many people genuinely got a full recovery from being on this shows?

Regardless of whether you think he was a nice person or not, he was the face of that culture of TV that brought that poor, desperate, thick, uneducated and nasty underclass and put them on TV. He encouraged conflict, outrageous, indecent behaviour and savagery yet he knew better. He undoubtedly created a culture where, in this culture, we had the appalling Jeremy Kyle show on our TV which was one of the most shameful programmes shown.

I'm sorry he's passed, but his legacy is shameful.

Interesting that you don't seem to know that he, himself, said he never watched his shows back. That should tell you something.

Unlike people like Kyle, he never got in people's faces, never encouraged them to fight, but that was a exec producer's input and how producers sort to gain some notoriety.

His own legacy was talking it out, which was at odds to his show producer's and whilst I don't think he was fully blameless (he, obviously, like all talk show hosts, enjoyed some of the escapades), I don't think it's fair to label him as the 'face of it', which only be reasonably reduced to such a event, by those that didn't watch the early stuff, especially.