No exactly, and that response hasn't come out of nowhere. Suppose it's the same kind of confirmation bias that exists against any minority. Logic tells me that the vast majority of travellers must be perfectly nice, but the only two groups I've ever encountered absolutely were not, so those are the experiences that stick in my mind. I'd imagine the reason for that is purely that the 'normal' travellers are by definition not ones I'd have come across as they keep to themselves. The people cheering probably have had the same experience.
That said I do think watching a Jimmy Carr gig and being offended at anything he says is like having a picnic at the beach and being pissed when the seagulls turn up. Once the clip is taken out of the context where everyone seeing it is expecting to hear some (extremely) offensive material, and put on Twitter for people who were just trying to have their morning coffee to hear, it will obviously get a very different reaction.
I'm not her but given that she has just given birth and that she is not part of the traveller community, I imagine she has better things to do. She is Jewish so I imagine she is offended by anyone that is antisemitic. Why aren't the same dickheads harassing people who speak out about racism or disability rights? The answer is she spoke out about their hero Corbyn,and they have harassed her ever since.
The difference with your example being that Lawyers have never been persecuted to the same extent as say Jews or Gypsies. Certainly there is no real life, in living memory, example of Lawyers being killed in bus/ cliff accidents in the same way that millions of people were killed by the Nazi's. So the joke has very little historic pain attached to it.
Lawyers have also always sat at the "top" of society, and punching up as opposed to punching down is much less likely to be seen as bullying / persecution / demonization.
It's not a question of their being humour in death or not, its whether there is humour in specifically targeting groups who have historically been treated abhorrently by the majority of society and whether you think they are a suitable target for "jokes" about it being a good thing for them to be killed systematically in order to wipe them off the planet.
See the difference?
Cancel culture doesn't exist. Challenging something, criticising something are not the same as cancelling something. HTFHIt’s been a busy week for cancel culture, I’m knackered trying to keep up.
yeah it’s definitely a suitable joke to be made, he said it and 100s of people in the audience laughed and 1000s more will have laughed watching on Netflix and 100s of thousands all over the world will have laughed, it did exactly what a joke is designed to do and made people laugh
if you’re in that audience with 100s of people around you are laughing and having a great night out, forgetting the shit in their lives and just being able to relax and enjoy themselves without judgment but you personally don’t like it, if your answer to that is to stop everyone elses fun cos your feelings got hurt over a joke then I think you’re a bit of a twat
it’s so fuckin simple if you don’t like it don’t watch it and don’t spend a single second worrying what was said because no matter what got said nobody was injured or killed and everyone just had a great time
Where did I suggest that people shouldn't be allowed to go to comedy? Hint: I didn't.
Where did I suggest people shouldn't be allowed to go to offensive comedy? Hint: I didn't.
You can go an watch a comedian and laugh and cheer when he suggests that the systematic killing of a group of persecuted people was a good thing. I can then call you a simple, racist, ****.
I saw Sean lock at the apollo.I actually went to his gig in Manchester last night.
I booked it one night over Xmas after wine happened and I'd all but forgotten about it....file under 'let's try this'.
Went with my daughter as we both enjoy comedy and I wanted to tick 'Famous TV Comic Live' off my list.
I thought it was ok and he can be funny at times, but I was hardly belly laughing.
Was at the Bridgewater hall. I think I'd be better off seeing someone at smaller venues. Lends itself more to orchestral events (my mind was wandering and was hoping it rounded up so I could get back and watch one of my boxsets.
Difficult to be shocked any anything so it seemed like going through the motions. I'd have liked to see Sean Lock.
He's no Dave Chappelle.
It's like the sort of people who thought that the Life of Brian was taking the piss out of Jesus simply because he featured in the movie. People seem to have a big problem with ironic humour nowadays and a lot of people get angry about a joke they demonstrably don't get.heres something that might come as a surprise….he didn’t mean it and doesn’t actually want thousands of people dying and neither do his audience
it’s just a joke
Not sure if it's been posted (can't be arsed reading back through all the pages) but have people actually watched the whole sequence and not just the joke itself.
I was surprised at how tame the joke was for Carr, he's said far worse.
The travellers joke was essentially just a simple, basic holocaust joke. Except it has the additional use of being about minorities who are normally not known about. And he even says afterward that it's part of the goal of the joke, to raise awareness.
It wasn't antisemitic and the joke asked question, what other minority groups were targeted? He prepares the audience before the joke, how you deliver a joke is its foundation and he delivered it perfectly. He didn't just throw the joke in, it and the audience were carefully prepared first. The reaction it has recieved is being made by many who haven't seen it and never will. Whether its funny or not is always subjective, it was tasteless and provocative but that is Carr's brand.