Jo Swinson

Neville Kneville said:
Several admitted Tory supporters are joyfully voiciferous on here ?

Oh hang on, they are the 'centre' I presume ?
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Its more than possible given Swinson is probably more to the right than many self confessed Tories.

She just wont ever admit it unless it won her a few more votes that is.
 
blueinsa said:
Its more than possible given Swinson is probably more to the right than many self confessed Tories.

She just wont ever admit it unless it won her a few more votes that is.
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Ah, that's an interesting angle.

It's possible Jeremy Corbyn is a paid stooge of Boris Johnson's paymasters, to get him elected by fucking up the opposition, & the CIA bombed the airfields in Saudi Arabia too.

But on the evidence, all 3 are more likely as they seem (apart from the 3rd one).

Oilfields
 
Neville Kneville said:
Ah, that's an interesting angle.

It's possible Jeremy Corbyn is a paid stooge of Boris Johnson's paymasters, to get him elected by fucking up the opposition, & the CIA bombed the airfields in Saudi Arabia too.

But on the evidence, all 3 are more likely as they seem (apart from the 3rd one).
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I can help you here.

Corbyn is an out and out leaver, always has been, always will be.

Unfortunately for him his strings get pulled by momentum and the members who put him in charge so he has to do what he is told which like every other party in parliament is change his tune every 5 mins on brexit, to suit and to try and win votes.

Principles are a thing of the past it would seem.
 
blueinsa said:
I can help you here.

Corbyn is an out and out leaver, always has been, always will be.

Unfortunately for him his strings get pulled by momentum and the members who put him in charge so he has to do what he is told which like every other party in parliament is change his tune every 5 mins on brexit, to suit and to try and win votes.

Principles are a thing of the past it would seem.
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I'm not sure they are a thing of the past, as politicians in general seem to lack them in general.

But of course Corbyn is a 'leaver' & that is one of the main reasons the referendum was imo unfair. The opposition for 'remain' to rally round, was David fucking Cameron, a posh **** who nobody liked or tusted to start with.

Corbyn has been laughing through his smelly beard, ever since. Nobody in their right mind was going to even consider electing him, until the Mogg & Boris circus came into town.
 
Neville Kneville said:
I'm not sure they are a thing of the past, as politicians in general seem to lack them in general.

But of course Corbyn is a 'leaver' & that is one of the main reasons the referendum was imo unfair. The opposition for 'remain' to rally round, was David fucking Cameron, a posh **** who nobody liked or tusted to start with.

Corbyn has been laughing through his smelly beard, ever since. Nobody in their right mind was going to even consider electing him, until the Mogg & Boris circus came into town.
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Smelly beard lol ;-)
 
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blueinsa said:
You dont think its true?

Next week she will share with the nation how she fed 5 thousand starving at her local food bank with just 5 loaves and 2 small fishes.

What a gal!
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This proves exactly what I'm talking about.

The absolute obscene, disgusting shit the Tories are 100% guilty of, Corbyn's pathetic, weak, abysmal leadership of the Labour party & this person is being made out to be a worse alternative, because of what she 'might' be thinking.

Imagine it was City, & how we would view that.
 
Neville Kneville said:
This proves exactly what I'm talking about.

The absolute obscene, disgusting shit the Tories are 100% guilty of, Corbyn's pathetic, weak, abysmal leadership of the Labour party & this person is being made out to be a worse alternative, because of what she 'might' be thinking.

Imagine it was City, & how we would view that.
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Its the Swinson thread mate.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Excuse us whilst the non-Marxists amongst us have a right good laugh.
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Yay Marxist, not seen that for a couple of days.

The desperation to deflect is increasing as you realise your party is imploding under the strain of the lunatics running the asylum.

The great George Orwell wrote

"In my opinion, nothing has contributed so much to the corruption of the original idea of socialism as the belief that Russia is a socialist country and that every act of its rulers must be excused, if not imitated. And so for the last ten years, I have been convinced that the destruction of the Soviet myth was essential if we wanted a revival of the socialist movement"

Your continual use of the word Marxist is typical of right wing scaremongering, even Orwell himself saw that this myth was destructive and a corruption of the facts. What Orwell didn't foresee was when the Soviet Union imploded the Right would be emboldened and the old myths would survive peddled by desperate right wingers in order to make slurs against Socialists.

What is really funny, is in your desperation you continue to use these discredited myths and it makes you look rather silly mate.

Lenin was spot on when he said

"Whoever wants to reach socialism by any other path than that of political democracy will inevitably arrive at conclusions that are absurd and reactionary both in the economic and the political sense" and then went on to say "The old trick of the reactionaries: first to misinterpret socialism by making it out to be an absurdity"

With your constant use of Marxist/Marxism as an insult you sound increasing like one of the far right rights favourite Philosophers, Nietzsche, who said

"Socialism itself can hope to exist only for brief periods here and there, and then only through the exercise of the extremest terrorism. For this reason it is secretly preparing itself for rule through fear and is driving the word ‘justice’ into the heads of the half-educated masses like a nail so as to rob them of their reason... and to create in them a good conscience for the evil game they are to play"


Personally i don't mind the insults as they show a lack of political acumen on the right, that same lack of acumen that has given us Johnson as PM.
 
Neville Kneville said:
This proves exactly what I'm talking about.

The absolute obscene, disgusting shit the Tories are 100% guilty of, Corbyn's pathetic, weak, abysmal leadership of the Labour party & this person is being made out to be a worse alternative, because of what she 'might' be thinking.

Imagine it was City, & how we would view that.
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Being serious it’s quite hard whatever your outlook is to vote for any party at the moment without disregarding ones own moral values, some don’t posses much so it would obviously be easier.

I think the best ploy is just honesty as we are on a football forum and it doesn’t really matter. Something along the lines of out of **** a **** b and **** c I will be voting for **** c because I want to remain in the EU. Once this has been achieved I reserve the right to vote for another **** or maybe someone decent may emerge.

People can try and put a cherry on a turd and call it a chocolate sundae but I won’t be reaching for a spoon.
 
Rascal said:
Yay Marxist, not seen that for a couple of days.

The desperation to deflect is increasing as you realise your party is imploding under the strain of the lunatics running the asylum.

The great George Orwell wrote

"In my opinion, nothing has contributed so much to the corruption of the original idea of socialism as the belief that Russia is a socialist country and that every act of its rulers must be excused, if not imitated. And so for the last ten years, I have been convinced that the destruction of the Soviet myth was essential if we wanted a revival of the socialist movement"

Your continual use of the word Marxist is typical of right wing scaremongering, even Orwell himself saw that this myth was destructive and a corruption of the facts. What Orwell didn't foresee was when the Soviet Union imploded the Right would be emboldened and the old myths would survive peddled by desperate right wingers in order to make slurs against Socialists.

What is really funny, is in your desperation you continue to use these discredited myths and it makes you look rather silly mate.

Lenin was spot on when he said

"Whoever wants to reach socialism by any other path than that of political democracy will inevitably arrive at conclusions that are absurd and reactionary both in the economic and the political sense" and then went on to say "The old trick of the reactionaries: first to misinterpret socialism by making it out to be an absurdity"

With your constant use of Marxist/Marxism as an insult you sound increasing like one of the far right rights favourite Philosophers, Nietzsche, who said

"Socialism itself can hope to exist only for brief periods here and there, and then only through the exercise of the extremest terrorism. For this reason it is secretly preparing itself for rule through fear and is driving the word ‘justice’ into the heads of the half-educated masses like a nail so as to rob them of their reason... and to create in them a good conscience for the evil game they are to play"


Personally i don't mind the insults as they show a lack of political acumen on the right, that same lack of acumen that has given us Johnson as PM.
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Haven’t had time to read all that but reminded me. Who wrote animal farm?
 
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