We'll see.
The constant patronising and dismal of the LibDems as a real political stance or position only further alienates socialists from the rest of the country.
You constantly say you have no respect for her but that means absolutely nothing.
As does your opinion, or mine or anyone elses here, none will change peo0les minds
Also I just dmsaid I had respect and time for lib-dems of the past, the present lot though get none from me.
You keep drawing lines, I can be a socualist but respect or acknoledge my oposition if they are actually have the convictions of their message.
I detest thatcher, but I can admit she had her ideology and wasn't ashaned of the fact or willing to pretend otherwise, the likes of johnson and swinson change view and tact like the wind and she in particular lòoks out of her depth, sturgeon didn't, corbyn didn't and johnson did his usual smoke amd mirror bluff.
You dissagree that she is poor, fine but repeatingly saying this opinion is some socialist myopic stance is ninsense, I think she is poor because she is poor, if she was labour leader I would despair at her performances.
Also let's not forget I have on several occasions said Jeremy can fuck off so my comments ain't some pro corbyn toe the line stance, I genuinely think she is a poor politician.
Every politician changes stance and opinion, if they didn’t I’d be worried.
Corbyn, Sturgeon, Johnson and Swinson have all changed their positions. I know Johnson is a liar and does so incredibly easy but so do the others.
Are you telling me Labour would be backing the 2nd referendum if their previous position wasn’t killing them? Are you telling me Corbyn’s ‘neutral’ stance isn’t because he’s actually a leave supporter but is scared to tell the truth?
It’s part and parcel of it.
The last guy that told the truth was Rory Stewart and look where it got him.
Looks like the favourite to become next Lib Dem leader.
Voting record is hardly liberal or progressive, but then niether was cables.
Don't know much about her tbf, but with them on a bounce atm good appointmemt or not? I have no idea honestly.
Or does it not matter, atm people will choose anyone but lab/con so will who is their leader be a factor?
You are mixing party policy agreed as a collective with a discussion on a politician and their own performance.
This is about swinsons performance as a leader and politician, hee parties policies are another debate.
For me she is poor as a political leader, and I have already said previous lib-dem leaders I had respect for and I can,say some liberal policies I favour, this isn't about the party the thread is Jo Swinson and that is who I am commenting on.
Every politician changes stance and opinion, if they didn’t I’d be worried.
Corbyn, Sturgeon, Johnson and Swinson have all changed their positions. I know Johnson is a liar and does so incredibly easy but so do the others.
Are you telling me Labour would be backing the 2nd referendum if their previous position wasn’t killing them? Are you telling me Corbyn’s ‘neutral’ stance isn’t because he’s actually a leave supporter but is scared to tell the truth?
It’s part and parcel of it.
The last guy that told the truth was Rory Stewart and look where it got him.
She has pissed off the lesbians now and being accused of using homophobic language in her marr interview
Why are these lying bastards lying to us? I cannot understand that any supporter of any party can't see that lying is the stock in trade of every party leader who has ever been. They might not see it as lying, and label it as the 'political process' and someone could probably argue philosophically that it isn't strictly lying, but as sure as cuff it ain't what i call the truth!
I caught a bit of the Marr interview when she was talking about Trans rights’ and so on but didn’t notice anything that could really offend anyone. What did she say?
Sounds like the prison issue where (apparently) male prisoners identify as female, end up in a women's prison and start shagging/raping other female inmates with their 10" cock. I assume in these circumstances said cock self identifies as a very large clitoris - all very confusing and if I was a politician I'd keep well away because someone will always end up offended.Was the bit where she was on about single sex safe spaces when she said if lesbians can be in domestic violence refuges then so can transitioning males.
tbf it never registered with me but a few have said it's out of order.
Honestly wouldn't surprise me if she helps vote Bj's deal through in the next parliamentI see Primark Tory BoJo Swinson is downplaying her chances of becoming the next PM and is now predicting a Tory majority.
Maybe she is thinking of crossing the floor of the house to the Tories after the election?
Cabinet position on offer?
As half her MPs are Tories its plausible.I see Primark Tory BoJo Swinson is downplaying her chances of becoming the next PM and is now predicting a Tory majority.
Maybe she is thinking of crossing the floor of the house to the Tories after the election?
Cabinet position on offer?
See Chris Martin of Coldplay is going to vote for (Bo) JO SWINSON'S lib dems.
Another reason not to vote for them (except in Tory/ Lib Dem marginals of course) and vote Labour.[/
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