Joao Cancelo

[Mon Autre]

Danilo is no slouch and he has still time to make an impact, the difficulty is that he is still behind Walker. When you have manager like Pep you need to keep evolving adjusting to the demands of the premiership and champions league throw at you. Cancelo could take us to another level where as you are quite right in saying Maguire isn't up to scratch with his price tag being irrelevant in all this.

I like Danilo and I'd have chosen him ahead of Walker a lot more last season (providing he was fit). Regardless of what I think of him though he hasn't properly established himself here and is proving difficult to move on.

Think i might not have been clear in what I said before. I was actually defending the idea of paying a lot for Maguire if the club thinks he has something to offer. I was saying i'd rather do that than buy someone else instead in for half the price who ends up not really making it here and we can't shift further down the line.

 

[meeesh]

I expect most games where we're expected to win, yes. He's like an extra winger. Tougher games against better teams, Walker.

He's a good un though with sounds yea ?

 

[Blueknows]

Joao Cancelo will be a Manchester City player by the start of next week after Juventus finally agreed a deal for his sale, say reports in Italy.

Tuttosport claims that a deal has been agreed with the Turin club two months after the right-back agreed personal terms with City.
Juventus will receive a fee around €30-35 million and Danilo will head to Turin permanently as part of the deal.

 

[Dobsy]

He's a good un though with sounds yea ?

Yes: he's in the Juventus starting XI. They paid €40m for him in 2018 and it looks like based on the valuations being mentioned for Danilo earlier this summer we'll pay the equivalent of €60-€65m for him.

 

[cjn]

59 appearances over two season as a backup.

Champions League winner.

Two time Premier League winner since his last transfer.

In his prime years at 28.

No way shape or form should he go for less than the £27m we paid for him.

Danny Ings went for £20m for fuck sake if you want to talk about an actual crock that never plays.

Yeah but let's actually look at those appearances.

Last season he played 1479 minutes in all comps:

• 806 minutes in the Prem, starting 9 games
• 119 minutes in the Champions League, all of which came from dead rubbers vs Shaktar and Shalke 2nd leg
• 315 minutes in the Carabao Cup, against heavyweights Oxford, Fulham, and Burton (though he did get subbed on for 30 minutes in the final)
• 238 minutes in the FA Cup, starting against Burnley and Newport County120 minutes total against top 6 competition across all comps

So he barely played last year, and played even fewer meaningful minutes, which is even more damning considering the form that Kyle Walker was in for six weeks or so in a crucial part of our season. It was clear to see for anyone looking that the manager either didn't trust or doesn't rate him. Doesn't inspire a ton of confidence for a buying club.

Add that to the high wages he's on, the nagging injury here and there, and the limited set of clubs that he would actually go to (he's not moving from Madrid, to City, to ...West Ham for example), it's really not surprising at all that we're not finding many takers for him.

 

[pudge]

Yeah but let's actually look at those appearances.

Last season he played 1479 minutes in all comps:

• 806 minutes in the Prem, starting 9 games
• 119 minutes in the Champions League, all of which came from dead rubbers vs Shaktar and Shalke 2nd leg
• 315 minutes in the Carabao Cup, against heavyweights Oxford, Fulham, and Burton (though he did get subbed on for 30 minutes in the final)
• 238 minutes in the FA Cup, starting against Burnley and Newport County
• 120 minutes total against top 6 competition across all comps

So he barely played last year, and played even fewer meaningful minutes, which is even more damning considering the form that Kyle Walker was in for six weeks or so in a crucial part of our season. It was clear to see for anyone's looking that the manager either didn't trust or doesn't rate him.

Add that to the high wages he's on, the nagging injury here and there, and the limited set of clubs that he would actually go to (he's not moving from Madrid, to City, to ...West Ham for example), it's really not surprising at all that we're not finding many takers for him.

High wages being a stumbling block is the club's fault though

 

[balotelli's back pocket]

Danilo cost us 26.5 million pounds on a five year contract in 2017. After 2 years worth of amortization, his value is now 16 million pounds, less than 20 million euros. If Cancelo is valued at 60 million euros by Juve, (55m pounds) then an offer of 35m pounds plus Danilo should be enough.

 

[GoldenLitefut]

High wages being a stumbling block is the club's fault though

Is he really on higher wages than he was on at RM?

 

[SWP's back]

Excuse my ignorance here,for those that know,but is this lad coming here to be a regular starter before Walker ? I'd have thought at the price tag,he won't be sitting on bench too much.

Before anyone says it's a squad game,I know,i'm just curious as to how good he is and would he be a starter for sure at RB ?

You’d think so but Walker just signed a long extension so fuck knows.

 

[cjn]

Is he really on higher wages than he was on at RM?

Maybe? If you recall how we got him, it was a deal put together quickly after Alves shot us down at the last second. He certainly didn’t take a pay cut in any case.