Joe Hart (continued)

cibaman said:
BillyShears said:
Just a gut feeling ... but I don't think Joe's ready to come back yet and I don't think he will.

Going to be interesting because IMO if he's not back against Swansea, he won't be back before the new year.

If he doesn't play on Sunday he'll play against Bayern and Leicester. I still think that he'll get a run of games in December, even if he doesn't play the next two league games
MP's got himself to a place where he can comfortably rotate the keepers with some frequency in the next 6 weeks or so without upsetting the apple cart.
 
George Hannah said:
BillyShears said:
George Hannah said:
Joe is ready - Manuel & Co are still digging their hole with this blunder.

Only in your dreams mate.

it's time you woke up Billy

I'm just not sure how Pellegrini is digging a hole for himself. The comment doesn't really make any sense in the current climate, particularly with regards Joe. He has taken his dropping very well by all accounts and is working had in training. Did ok last night, although certainly didn't look to me like he was at his best. It'll take time and when the time comes he'll be back in the team.

Either way you can't fault the way the management team have handled the situation, even if you don't agree that Costel should be playing ahead of Joe.
 
If Joe doesn't get his place back it'll be because Costel hasn't made any mistakes, which is actually a good thing.
 
BillyShears said:
George Hannah said:
BillyShears said:
Only in your dreams mate.
it's time you woke up Billy
I'm just not sure how Pellegrini is digging a hole for himself. The comment doesn't really make any sense in the current climate, particularly with regards Joe. He has taken his dropping very well by all accounts and is working had in training. Did ok last night, although certainly didn't look to me like he was at his best. It'll take time and when the time comes he'll be back in the team.
Either way you can't fault the way the management team have handled the situation, even if you don't agree that Costel should be playing ahead of Joe.
The fault is dropping him in the first place in favour of an inferior replacement and now it is compounded because he cannot be restored for a protracted period without their error being admitted. They did it to pave the way for signing a new keeper in January, which is fine if he is an upgrade, but Joe should be playing in the interim.
 
George Hannah said:
They did it to pave the way for signing a new keeper in January, which is fine if he is an upgrade, but Joe should be playing in the interim.

You're more than a little mistaken. City have zero interest in signing a keeper in January, and zero interest in letting Joe go in January. The manager said as much clearly and succinctly at the press conference before the Plzen match.

Also I'm not sure how it can be such a grave mistake to drop a player who's mistakes are becoming clownish and embarrassing the whole club.
 
I thought Hart was much better last night, some of his saves were fantastic, back to his best at shot stopping. He couldn't do much about either goal, and the only issue is probably the communication between the defence, especially centre-backs, and keeper. Too many changes for me. However Hart seemed to catch more and try to setup attacks quickly. There were two or three occasions in the second half where he could have rerleased the ball a bit earlier but his distribution was better than it has been.

I still think Hart is the better keeper than Pantilimon but it has been good for Hart to take a break and focus on his game. Pantilimon's distribution is better and the infamous "stats" prove it, he just doesn't get down for shots as quickly as maybe he should, but the games he has played he seems pretty comfortable with the ball at his feet. There have been a few wobbles though and he has come for the ball a few times and "flapped" at it.

I think if we do decide to bring in a better keeper and we keep Hart then it will be good for him to have some competition, however there are more urgent parts of the team to sort out in Janaury so I cannot see this happening unless Pantilimon decides he needs to leave. I actually think some healthy competition could help both keepers to improve their form.
 
BillyShears said:
George Hannah said:
They did it to pave the way for signing a new keeper in January, which is fine if he is an upgrade, but Joe should be playing in the interim.
Also I'm not sure how it can be such a grave mistake to drop a player who's mistakes are becoming clownish and embarrassing the whole club.
well there you have it - official confirmation that Joe Hart, one of City's best ever keepers and current England Number One, is the latest to be awarded the Cabal's "Embarrassing Clown" medal of honour.
 
George Hannah said:
BillyShears said:
Just a gut feeling ... but I don't think Joe's ready to come back yet and I don't think he will.

Going to be interesting because IMO if he's not back against Swansea, he won't be back before the new year.

Joe is ready - Manuel & Co are still digging their hole with this blunder.

Are you ignoring the reply you asked me to post for you?
 
George Hannah said:
BillyShears said:
George Hannah said:
They did it to pave the way for signing a new keeper in January, which is fine if he is an upgrade, but Joe should be playing in the interim.
Also I'm not sure how it can be such a grave mistake to drop a player who's mistakes are becoming clownish and embarrassing the whole club.
well there you have it - official confirmation that Joe Hart, one of City's best ever keepers and current England Number One, is the latest to be awarded the Cabal's "Embarrassing Clown" medal of honour.

His mistake against Chelsea was lamentable IMO. Also think the shots he let in against Bayern were absolutely embarrassing for a so called top keeper.

Having said that don't get me wrong, I believe he is a top goal keeper and once he gets his mentality right, he'll be back to his best for City. There's no danger of MP selling him either way. I'm confident of that.
 
BillyShears said:
George Hannah said:
BillyShears said:
Also I'm not sure how it can be such a grave mistake to drop a player who's mistakes are becoming clownish and embarrassing the whole club.
well there you have it - official confirmation that Joe Hart, one of City's best ever keepers and current England Number One, is the latest to be awarded the Cabal's "Embarrassing Clown" medal of honour.

His mistake against Chelsea was lamentable IMO. Also think the shots he let in against Bayern were absolutely embarrassing for a so called top keeper.

Having said that don't get me wrong, I believe he is a top goal keeper and once he gets his mentality right, he'll be back to his best for City. There's no danger of MP selling him either way. I'm confident of that.

Almost a carbon copy of the Chelsea fuck up, in goal for England against Germany too, If Joe does not learn from his mistakes he will not improve or get his confidence back. His shot stopping was good for England but he's not reading the game like all the top keepers do.
 

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