Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

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It's what people do when they hear something they don't like. It's easier to believe that someone is secretly a rival fan or simply trying to wind them up than it is to respect a different point of view. For some people anyway.

I've had it when I joked with another user on the Pogba thread after he assured everyone that he wasn't going to United and I had it on another when I questioned a poster's suggestion that we all start tweeting personal attacks at a woman for posting a rather tame joke about Raheem.

Who gives a toss? This forum doesn't decide whether or not you're a Blue, it decides whether or not you fit in with what they want Blues to say. Rag.
Quite right.
 
For Bayern, Neuer plays behind a solid midfield and defence. Statistically, Neuer faces far fewer shots than any GK in the BL because Bayern are so dominant - so your comment suggesting he plays behind poor defenders doesn't stack up. Don't make me laugh about De Gea - as though United have carefully selected and organised a bunch of incompetents in front of him. This is Man United we're talking about, not Sheffield United. Joe has no advantage over Neuer. I watch England in tournaments thinking we're good enough to do well, then I watch the defence fall apart at crucial moments every time. Smalling is a good player, but the England defence is not - they get in each other's way. Joe's clean sheet record for England and City is exceptional.

he's got the best defenders in the league in front of him. He either had Vinnie + 1, or someone like Otamendi who despite errors is still a top CB. Neuer faces less shots because he is in a great team that keeps the ball, but he plays as part of that, Joe can't, which is why the manager responsible for both sides likes Neuer and doesn't like Hart. The fact remains the lynchpin of both United's and England's defence is Smalling, and if you want to argue semantics over who's better between Cahill and Blind that's up to you. So your point really doesn't stand, especially when one third of our goals conceded is in one corner of a goal where Joe is statistically more likely to concede than save it. That's a fatal flaw, not the making of a top, top keeper.
 
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