Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

[Ric]

Yeah, let's keep this thread on topic. It's about Joe Hart, not Claudio Bravo.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Anybody think Hart will play against Everton ?

 

[macmanson]

According to statistics site WhoScored, Hart made 30 passes against Slovenia with a success rate of 86.7 per cent - only four clearances went astray. He played 11 long balls, seven accurately to a team-mate, and on the 19 other occasions when he had the ball at his feet, hit an accurate short pass to a team-mate.

Hart's performance for England is statistically comparable to Bravo for Man City. In the team's 2-0 defeat to Tottenham Hotspur on 2 October, WhoScored says, Bravo made 44 passes, 16 of them long, with a 75 per cent accuracy rate. The 11 passes he missed were all long balls.

Meanwhile, in the Champions League game against Celtic at the end of September, when City were clearly rattled by the intensity of the Glasgow side, Bravo retreated into his box and according to WhoScored, made only 22 passes. Half of those were long clearances and although he completed all 11 of the short passes he made, the Chilean missed more than half of his long balls to finish with a completion rate of 73 per cent.

Not a knock on either keeper, but it's become quite clear that Joe never had any shot of being the keeper here whether he could improve his passing play or not. The decision to move him on was made long before Pep ever saw him in person.

 

[Gordyola]

According to statistics site WhoScored, Hart made 30 passes against Slovenia with a success rate of 86.7 per cent - only four clearances went astray. He played 11 long balls, seven accurately to a team-mate, and on the 19 other occasions when he had the ball at his feet, hit an accurate short pass to a team-mate.

Hart's performance for England is statistically comparable to Bravo for Man City. In the team's 2-0 defeat to Tottenham Hotspur on 2 October, WhoScored says, Bravo made 44 passes, 16 of them long, with a 75 per cent accuracy rate. The 11 passes he missed were all long balls.

Meanwhile, in the Champions League game against Celtic at the end of September, when City were clearly rattled by the intensity of the Glasgow side, Bravo retreated into his box and according to WhoScored, made only 22 passes. Half of those were long clearances and although he completed all 11 of the short passes he made, the Chilean missed more than half of his long balls to finish with a completion rate of 73 per cent.

Not a knock on either keeper, but it's become quite clear that Joe never had any shot of being the keeper here whether he could improve his passing play or not. The decision to move him on was made long before Pep ever saw him in person.

Didn't see the England game so a genuine question were Slovenia pressing high up the pitch and targeting Hart like Celtic and Spuds?

 

[canyerdogputoutafire]

Didn't see the England game so a genuine question were Slovenia pressing high up the pitch and targeting Hart like Celtic and Spuds?

Yes.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

but it's become quite clear that Joe never had any shot of being the keeper here whether he could improve his passing play or not. The decision to move him on was made long before Pep ever saw him in person.

That might or might not be right. I've said on here that based on stuff I've heard (and others have independently) Pep's arrival might have been a smokescreen and the club wanted him out anyway. Or he might have had a chance to impress Pep but conspicuously failed to take it.

 

[Kazzydeyna]

Hart should have been marched out the door with his belongings in a cardboard box the minute he gave it the big'un against Mancini.

That he wasn't probably cost us the chance to develop a dynasty.

Average keeper as evidenced by the queue of top clubs clamouring to sign him in the summer window.

 

[mosssideblue]

According to statistics site WhoScored, Hart made 30 passes against Slovenia with a success rate of 86.7 per cent - only four clearances went astray. He played 11 long balls, seven accurately to a team-mate, and on the 19 other occasions when he had the ball at his feet, hit an accurate short pass to a team-mate.

Hart's performance for England is statistically comparable to Bravo for Man City. In the team's 2-0 defeat to Tottenham Hotspur on 2 October, WhoScored says, Bravo made 44 passes, 16 of them long, with a 75 per cent accuracy rate. The 11 passes he missed were all long balls.

Meanwhile, in the Champions League game against Celtic at the end of September, when City were clearly rattled by the intensity of the Glasgow side, Bravo retreated into his box and according to WhoScored, made only 22 passes. Half of those were long clearances and although he completed all 11 of the short passes he made, the Chilean missed more than half of his long balls to finish with a completion rate of 73 per cent.

Not a knock on either keeper, but it's become quite clear that Joe never had any shot of being the keeper here whether he could improve his passing play or not. The decision to move him on was made long before Pep ever saw him in person.

Quite clear to you maybe.

 

[Rolee]

Hart should have been marched out the door with his belongings in a cardboard box the minute he gave it the big'un against Mancini.

That he wasn't probably cost us the chance to develop a dynasty.

Average keeper as evidenced by the queue of top clubs clamouring to sign him in the summer window.

What was "the big'un"?

 

[BlueTG]

Hart should have been marched out the door with his belongings in a cardboard box the minute he gave it the big'un against Mancini.

That he wasn't probably cost us the chance to develop a dynasty.

Average keeper as evidenced by the queue of top clubs clamouring to sign him in the summer window.

It was Mancini himself that prevented himself developing a dynasty.