Joey Barton found guilty of sending offensive posts

Fuck me you're ranting now.

You have neither explained or clarified anything at all, now listen up Forrest.

In my opinion and I suggest in many other peoples opinions a judge should not exercise the right to tell someone not to display their own flag, you showed your true colours when you garbled something about Robinson so from that instant you lost all traction.

The judge is a **** and people like you deserve to lose your freedoms because words are too hurty for your ears.

Not ranted, I've calmly explained.

I've corrected you twice on your incorrect posts.

You just don't want to hear anything other than it being some sort of political persecution of British patriots.
 
Not ranted, I've calmly explained.

I've corrected you twice on your incorrect posts.

You just don't want to hear anything other than it being some sort of political persecution of British patriots.


You showed your colours ranting about Robinson, every single word you type is stagnant with bias.

Anyway enough said I'm off to enjoy the film Zulu and write to my local councillor about people enjoying rap and pretending to be foreign.
 
You showed your colours ranting about Robinson, every single word you type is stagnant with bias.

Anyway enough said I'm off to enjoy the film Zulu and write to my local councillor about people enjoying rap and pretending to be foreign.

You've said multiple incorrect things which I have corrected you on. Not to annoy you but to make you aware of the case.

You've then gone off on rants and thrown insults at me for no reason.

Have a nice evening.
 
If the judge hadn't have issued a brain fart then this wouldn't';t have been on the BBC and been an issue, there are certain people I expect to have the view you have and you're one of those people.

I expect no less and you very much deserve the attention.
I think I’ll listen to that old saying “there’s no arguing with stupid” and leave it there. Enjoy your outrage whilst the sensible members of this forum are pissing themselves at how easy thick as mince morons like you are to trigger.
Don’t forget to contribute to the imminent “Go fund me” that Joey the plastic patriot will no doubt be grifting for any moment now.
 
Mexico, Mexico, Mexico. Stop, stop. You are hurting my ears. ;-) ;-)

Let’s all just try to agree that Barton is that horrible word beginning with any letter in the a, b, c…………

He wouldn’t have lasted two minutes in my class…. Not because of me but because the kids would have sorted him out… he’s a scouser. ;-) ;-)

Thank you @mexico1970 and @argyle you’ve kept me entertained and I kept thinking I’ve got to answer this one or that one but then just decided to have a laugh (at Barton not you) instead.
He’s a fool of the highest order and is like a kid trying to grab the teacher’s attention. You know the sort, either shouting Miss, Miss, Miss or Sir, Sir, Sir!!


Sorry if I offended either of you it is not my intention. :-) :-)
 
Am I right in thinking that one of the posts he was convicted for was “only there to tick boxes” presumably in reference to Aluko’s employment as a pundit ?
 
Happy to say, as he’s one of our Academy kids, that he did us well against QPR!

Only because he’s an absolute ****/narcissist who does not care for anybody else and decided to take his revenge as he had to have his say.
 
Am I right in thinking that one of the posts he was convicted for was “only there to tick boxes” presumably in reference to Aluko’s employment as a pundit ?

I think that's right. He directly sent a message to her telling her this.

His defense was he was just trying to have banter with her.
 
His podcast is pretty funny and I can't really see what harm the tweets I've read causes but "The finding of the jury confirmed that his conduct had gone beyond any joke and his messages were grossly offensive with the purpose of causing anxiety and distress to his victims"

Its a minefield
 
If he’d said this down the pub, he’d have had no case to answer.

We’re in an interesting time where we’re learning about where to put social media in terms of publication.

A newspaper journalist publishing an article calling someone a nonce with no substance would have got them sacked in the 90s and potentially taken to court, civil or law.

Now we have people able to say what they like to millions/billions of people in real time. How is that different to journalists in the 90s?

There does need to be some form of regulation on social media. Where the limit is is the debating point.

Newspapers had an editor. Social media does not, or certainly not a robust enough one.
 
Mexico, Mexico, Mexico. Stop, stop. You are hurting my ears. ;-) ;-)

Let’s all just try to agree that Barton is that horrible word beginning with any letter in the a, b, c…………

He wouldn’t have lasted two minutes in my class…. Not because of me but because the kids would have sorted him out… he’s a scouser. ;-) ;-)

Thank you @mexico1970 and @argyle you’ve kept me entertained and I kept thinking I’ve got to answer this one or that one but then just decided to have a laugh (at Barton not you) instead.
He’s a fool of the highest order and is like a kid trying to grab the teacher’s attention. You know the sort, either shouting Miss, Miss, Miss or Sir, Sir, Sir!!


Sorry if I offended either of you it is not my intention. :-) :-)
Message for those who don't know that when you shout in an argument all people hear is the noise.
 
No idea who this vine bloke is but I did see a photo of him on a bike and thought that's pretty much what I would expect a bike nonce to look like.
It would be amazing to be instructed to run that as a defence. I wonder if there’s an expert witness you could call? Cross examination of Vine himself would be interesting. Especially if run while asking him questions in relation to various slides of him wearing cycling gear. Giving knowing looks to the jury each time a new slide came up.

Yes, would be great fun.

Would also almost certainly end in a conviction. An acquittal would be hilarious though as it would mean everyone could call Vine a bike nonce, or at least that he looks like one, with absolute impunity.
 
Liked this from Andrew Menary, who is a brilliant judge, very well regarded, and was a top bloke on the one occasion I met him about 15 years ago.

Directing the jury, Judge Menary explained that the term "grossly offensive" in the charges required a "high bar" for conviction.

"The criminal law is not there to punish bad manners, sharp humour, or unpopular opinions," he said.

"The law only intervenes when the content is of such an extreme, degrading or dehumanising character that society as a whole would say 'that goes too far, that crosses the line of what we can tolerate'."
I think there has to be a line somewhere. Surely that’s not a controversial point. It can’t be right to go online and mock parents who’ve recently lost a child, for example. Certain words have to surely be subject to criminal sanction. And if that is the case, then it’s surely right that twelve people drawn from society get to decide whether it’s grossly offensive or not.

And the verdicts they’ve arrived at shown they’ve thought about this carefully.

Vine will have given a good account whilst giving evidence. That will have helped secure a conviction there. And Barton won’t have been anywhere near as likeable as Vine. That will have helped too.
 
Whatever your views on Joey iron your political persuasion people shouldn't be facing changes for name calling.. t's ridiculous. Listened to him on a podcast recently and he seemed alright.

Police our streets not our tweets.
 

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