John Stones

[nmc]

I thought we might wrap this one up quite quickly - but it doesn't seem to be the case. Our ITKs say he only wants us, we want him, his agent is pushing - Everton have no manager so Kenwright can sell. Be interesting to see if we can push this one through before Friday but we tend not to do things quickly. You'd think Arsenal had the new manager the way they have hit the ground running. I guess it's the quality you buy not the haste with which you buy it that counts.

 

[blueincy]

so he's Mangala with a bit more hair.

In a nut shell:)

 

[blueincy]

Pep and Mancini and pelle don't buy players.......we are in the new world.....tixi etc think about our performance and buy players. The manager has an input but it's derisory , this is the new world....don t blame managers for new signings !!

So let me get this straight Pep Guardiola went to the Conservatorium Hotel in Amsterdam whilst still the coach of Bayern to meet up with Txiki for a lads night out?

 

[richards30]

I think in the past with Mancini and pellegrini players would have been bought with minimal input from them but no way imo that pep isn't saying exactly who he wants and getting txiki on the case with instructions to get as many from the a-target list as possible

 

[Tugay One Cup]

Pep and Mancini and pelle don't buy players.......we are in the new world.....tixi etc think about our performance and buy players. The manager has an input but it's derisory , this is the new world....don t blame managers for new signings !!

Surely the manager (particularly one as obsessive as the former "virtual president" of Barcelona, Pep Guardiola) has a say in transfer targets? Otherwise it would be potentially massively counterproductive.

 

[Bentheblue]

I thought it was understood Pelligrini had a big say in choosing Willie and MDM. I am sure Pep will have an even bigger input than Pelli.

 

[richards30]

So could we see positive movement on this this coming week @tolmie's hairdoo @Ric @Danamy ?

 

[1961_vintage]

The manager has an input but it's derisory

I expect this varies significantly according to the perceived credibility of the manager. For Pellers I would imagine derisory about sums it up, but for Pep he will be at the other end of the scale in terms of his influence. Bob was probably slipping further towards Pellers by the time the end came!

 

[TRUE BLUE NO1]

So could we see positive movement on this this coming week @tolmie's hairdoo @Ric @Danamy ?

Just a guess/opinion mate and could be way off but I think we could see some movement on Laporte(if rumours are true) but we could have to wait until after the euros/copa before we get much more transfer news....

 

[Tugay One Cup]

Lots is being made of Pep coaching Stones into being a better defender but I think Vinnie's potential role is being underplayed.

I'm sure everyone's sick of hearing about Pep confidential at this point but there's a specific section in one of the chapters about nullifying the threat of the opposition's free man (not Morgan or Martin).

Identifying who this free man is, isolation him and anticipating the moment when he's about to receive the ball are all paramount. One of Kompany's huge strengths of defending on the front foot fits this description.

So, even if he does remain perpetually injured, Pep has the ideal role model in Vinnie and one who can help transition Stones and/ or Laporte into fitting a defensive strategy Guardiola has maintained throughout his managerial career.

Another reason why, in my mind, thoughts of our captain being disposed of this summer are ludicrous.

 

[Bilboblue]

I pay my money to go watch the lads and it's my opinion

Kompany was a rock and top 10 CB in the world 3 years ago now to many injuries have taken their toll.

Otemendi has to be one of the worse top flight CB's I've ever seen, for a supposed tough guy he's always rolling round on the floor and get out muscled easily by nearly ever forward he faces, don't get me started on the reckless diving in and ball watching.

Mangala I like but with the ball at his feet he's gash and he's confidence is gone.
We paid 30 odd million for both its embarrassing really.

Rag.

 

[uwe rosler 28]

Rag.

That's a a smelly post definitely a bit raggy! Vinny is still the best center half in world football when fit and otamendi will be awesome with a shield in front of him!

 

[Zin 'messiah' Zimmer]

That's a a smelly post definitely a bit raggy! Vinny is still the best center half in world football when fit and otamendi will be awesome with a shield in front of him!

He's spot on, does that make me a rag?

 

[_OVO_]

Pep and Mancini and pelle don't buy players.......we are in the new world.....tixi etc think about our performance and buy players. The manager has an input but it's derisory , this is the new world....don t blame managers for new signings !!

Surely Navas, Negredo, Demichelis etc were Pellegrini buys. And I am 100% sure that there is no way that Pep would allow anyone to buy players for him, and considering the relationship between Pep and Txiki I'm sure that is the case.

 

[oakiecokie]

He's spot on, does that make me a rag?

Double Rags with brother. ;)

 

[Danamy]

Pep and Mancini and pelle don't buy players.......we are in the new world.....tixi etc think about our performance and buy players. The manager has an input but it's derisory , this is the new world....don t blame managers for new signings !!

Pep was definitely briefed prior to last summer's transfers, that's all i'm saying.

 

[Zin 'messiah' Zimmer]

Double Rags with brother. ;)

Ha, I do like stones though, does that make me a blue dipper??

 

[Zin 'messiah' Zimmer]

Pep was definitely briefed prior to last summer's transfers, that's all i'm saying.

I'm surprised at that post tbh, I thought it was common knowledge he had been having his input for over 12 months.... The likelihood is 4/5 of our purchases (including KDB and Gundogan) will all of been German based, I think that's a pretty clear indicator (:

 

[Ashleymcduff]

Rag.

Lol just cos I think some of our players are over rated and over paid for makes me a rag???

This game is gone if you can't have a opinion

 

[Rammy Blue]

Lol just cos I think some of our players are over rated and over paid for makes me a rag???

This game is gone if you can't have a opinion

Definite rag