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mattyb said:
City are playing a waiting game now, and waiting for Everton to flinch. We've tablled 2 bids from what I understand, and Everton are pushing for better terms on the cash bid.

He's agreed to come, they've agreed to sell him, so it's down to money.

Everton don't want him there next season (you can't have a player constantly asking to move), and they've already started to shop around for his replacement.

This will happen. It will either happen swiftly, or could drag on into the new season..... All depends on who blinks first.
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Cheers for your great contribution as always matty.
 
I hope we walk away on this one, the lad has twice expressed a will to leave for bigger better things and has not kicked up too much of a fuss with the club for being stubborn about it(yes they are if he wasn't English a poor/mixed season like last would have drove his price down no two ways about it to deny that would be fooling yourself), this is out of respect and loyalty to the club that made him the player he is/could go on to be.

He's overpriced our club knows it, the whole of the EPL and Europe knows it... we pay it after giving a "final offer" we look like complete mugs and will be treated as mugs by every club we deal with in the next transfer windows until we show some integrity and balls. Also the player who does look confidence driven(the fact that his shaky spell came when he was being criticized last season is no coincidence IMO) will have the added pressure of moving to a bigger club(yes we are, he's there to be shot at with us, we have CL football, bigger tests and more exposure) AND being the worlds most expensive defender... what can possibly go wrong if only we had experience of signing a "promising" young English talent for a massive fee as a reference?
 
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mattyb said:
City are playing a waiting game now, and waiting for Everton to flinch. We've tablled 2 bids from what I understand, and Everton are pushing for better terms on the cash bid.

He's agreed to come, they've agreed to sell him, so it's down to money.

Everton don't want him there next season (you can't have a player constantly asking to move), and they've already started to shop around for his replacement.

This will happen. It will either happen swiftly, or could drag on into the new season..... All depends on who blinks first.
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I really want this to happen below the british transfer record and the defender record transfer.

Not because I care about the money per se, but because I don't want those labels weighing Stones down.

Also because there's been some right twattish Everton fans around talking about how they're not going to sell for less than £60m now they're a big big club with loads of money, and "If City want him, they've got no choice but to pay whatever we want" type stuff - as if keeping a player who's absolutely desperate to leave is good management.
 
razman said:
Txiki's strategy ! it seemingly worked for Leroy...saved a few sterling...suppose we are repeating the same thing
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Power buying I believe they call it. Something we didn't do under the Cook / Marwood regime
 
domalino said:
I really want this to happen below the british transfer record and the defender record transfer.

Not because I care about the money per se, but because I don't want those labels weighing Stones down.

Also because there's been some right twattish Everton fans around talking about how they're not going to sell for less than £60m now they're a big big club with loads of money, and "If City want him, they've got no choice but to pay whatever we want" type stuff - as if keeping a player who's absolutely desperate to leave is good management.
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If Everton hold the value at something City don't want to pay, I believe we have strong enough leaders to walk away from the deal, just like we did with Pogba.

The situation as it stands here is that Everton want to sell this season, they are just holding out for the best deal they can get, which is why I firmly believe he will come.
 
Hungarian blue said:
Huh? Almost a month until September.

I already read somewhere on here that if this means Tosin will have a surprise cameo against Sunderland, then I'm all for Stones' late arrival. :)
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Oops I meant till the season starts. Would've preferred Stones to have some practice and preseasons with us if possible.
 
mattyb said:
Power buying I believe they call it. Something we didn't do under the Cook / Marwood regime
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safe to say..think we can afford to that as well at this stage ....in the Premier League we are the biggest attraction..
 
razman said:
safe to say..think we can afford to that as well at this stage ....in the Premier League we are the biggest attraction..
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True, but the power comes by people understanding that you have a limit, and you don't move on that limit. One of the best negotiators I've ever done business with was Daniel Levy, the guy was absolutely brutal!
 
mattyb said:
If Everton hold the value at something City don't want to pay, I believe we have strong enough leaders to walk away from the deal, just like we did with Pogba.

The situation as it stands here is that Everton want to sell this season, they are just holding out for the best deal they can get, which is why I firmly believe he will come.
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Didn't we walk away from Ross Barkley two years ago when they asked for £50M? Barkley wasn't worth it and his value has dropped alarmingly since then. If that story is true, then surely they'll have that in mind while holding out for more money with Stones.
 
Everton can get buy cover they need and knowing the bid is there on the table if us can just wait sit on it, till last few days of the transfer window if they wanted too.
 
ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN said:
Still didn't go down the and the point is no matter how he plays the price will not fall
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Maybe one bad season might keep the transfer value the same as it can be viewed as a blip, but to suggest multiple bad seasons won't affect his value is patently not true
Barcon said:
Not sure how anyone can say why his performance suffered.
Surely if he was that affected by it he would be heading to either chelsea or maureen, depending on why he wanted to go to chelsea in the first place.
I would say he wasn't that bothered and he just had a dip in form.
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Is that why he made a transfer request last time?

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...-john-stones-has-handed-in-a-transfer-request

He obviously no longer wanted to be at Everton by handing in a transfer request; his performance then suffered.

The two might not be connected but it seems the logical explanation
 
mattyb said:
City are playing a waiting game now, and waiting for Everton to flinch. We've tablled 2 bids from what I understand, and Everton are pushing for better terms on the cash bid.

He's agreed to come, they've agreed to sell him, so it's down to money.

Everton don't want him there next season (you can't have a player constantly asking to move), and they've already started to shop around for his replacement.

This will happen. It will either happen swiftly, or could drag on into the new season..... All depends on who blinks first.
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Thanks for your info mate :)
 
I honestly don't know how far negotiations went with Barkley mate, but hopefully that did happen, as it can only go in our favour
 
aguerrrroooooooooooo said:
Maybe one bad season might keep the transfer value the same as it can be viewed as a blip, but to suggest multiple bad seasons won't affect his value is patently not true

Is that why he made a transfer request last time?

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...-john-stones-has-handed-in-a-transfer-request

He obviously no longer wanted to be at Everton by handing in a transfer request; his performance then suffered.

The two might not be connected but it seems the logical explanation
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Is what why he made a transfer request?
I'm saying maybe he wasn't that bothered that he didn't move to chelsea.
He seems to have got over it if he was.
 
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