I am a fan of his. I think overall he's been great for the club and I understand the intricacies of football contracts that makes his job harder than some realise.
What I don't like is Everton being allowed to strong arm us in this deal. If they wanted Bony as a Lukaku replacement, who they bizarrely rate as a £75m striker, then they should be willing to pay a fair price.
I'm not sure anyone thinks anything is guaranteed. But with Pep as manager it's as likely as it could possibly ever be baring in mind his track record with players like Stones.
Personally don't think it's at all OTT to suggest that under Pep Stones will develop into one of the greatest defenders of his generation. But then I rate the lad very highly.
That's fine and I hope you are correct. Just makes me laugh that so many seem to think such things are guaranteed
No trolling here mate. Have you seen anything from the club?Stop trolling fella.
I'm not sure anyone thinks anything is guaranteed. But with Pep as manager it's as likely as it could possibly ever be baring in mind his track record with players like Stones.
Personally don't think it's at all OTT to suggest that under Pep Stones will develop into one of the greatest defenders of his generation. But then I rate the lad very highly.
They've not really strengthened at all so are leaving themselves open to having shit start to the season. Seems a bit daft to me when they could be doing a decent rebuild.There is a whiff of double standards isn't there about Everton's behaviour if reports are to be believed.
On the one hand they believe Stones to be a £50m player but pay him a salary significantly less than other players of his value.
They value Lukaku at >£70m and Bony at £15m. There is something not quite right there.
They are in a strong position and are utilising that position well in my opinion. The danger of course for them is that they are left with an unhappy player should we walk away.
Yeah that's pretty much where I am on the matter.There is a whiff of double standards isn't there about Everton's behaviour if reports are to be believed.
On the one hand they believe Stones to be a £50m player but pay him a salary significantly less than other players of his value.
They value Lukaku at >£70m and Bony at £15m. There is something not quite right there.
They are in a strong position and are utilising that position well in my opinion. The danger of course for them is that they are left with an unhappy player should we walk away.
If you look at the fact that Stones is a target and his salary will be added to the squad whether we sell Bony or not...then removing Bony's wage bill releases a 100k a week commitment?
We dont need to buy a replacement for Bony as we have players already on the squad to play that position.
Stones 120k a week + Bony 100k a week = 220k week
Stones 120k a week - Bony 100k a week = 120k week
save 100k a week!;)
Come on man, I think it's pretty obvious that Bony won't be part of Pep's plans, we are hardly likely to have Pep come out and say anything are we?No trolling here mate. Have you seen anything from the club?
I am a fan of his. I think overall he's been great for the club and I understand the intricacies of football contracts that makes his job harder than some realise.
What I don't like is Everton being allowed to strong arm us in this deal. If they wanted Bony as a Lukaku replacement, who they bizarrely rate as a £75m striker, then they should be willing to pay a fair price.
Obviously I was alluding to your post about reducing the wage bill in the deal that included the selling of Bony. (and I think you knew that)
Well that's where we differ I suppose. I'm not in the camp that thinks Stones will be the greatest ever defender to grace the game.Hi mate.....if its the difference between getting Stones or not, then I dont worry about whether it looks like "Everton strong arm us" We get our number 1 target of the summer and a CB I believe Pep will turn into one of the best in europe, while selling a 3rd/4th string striker and his high wages. Everyone can argue about player values but they only worth what people willing to pay and so far it seems, all we've been offered for Bony is loan deals....
We always get excited over transfers. seems to become an objective in of itself to sign players.That's fine and I hope you are correct. Just makes me laugh that so many seem to think such things are guaranteed
Nothing wrong with speculating at all. And that's all it is in my eyes.Come on man, I think it's pretty obvious that Bony won't be part of Pep's plans, we are hardly likely to have Pep come out and say anything are we?
So, funnily enough, in this thread, we are discussing an option that could be feasible, especially based on Bony being seen driving in Liverpool yesterday.
Nothing overly wrong with that is there?
Well that's where we differ I suppose. I'm not in the camp that thinks Stones will be the greatest ever defender to grace the game.