Neville Kneville
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No need. If the club want him out, it makes no difference what Stones days to us, only what he says to them.
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No need. If the club want him out, it makes no difference what Stones days to us, only what he says to them.
You sure, if he does not ask for a move, don't the selling club have to pay his contract out in full?No need. If the club want him out, it makes no difference what Stones days to us, only what he says to them.
Neville Kneville
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Never had a problem with Stones`s ability, we bought what we bought, and for the most part it was good value, but he can not play the Pique role he just is not fast enough, that when he tries causes injuries, if i have a problem with Stones it is because i do not believe he has had that many injuries this season, but Pep has to learn that if he wants to play Pique and Puyol he is going to have to get a fast defender who can play football to a midfielders standard, Zakaria is the only one i have seen capable of that
I would love us to sign Zakaria for midfield. Bonus if he solves that problem too.
I don't think Stones is that different in pace to Laporte, when fit, just his brain switches off. I think they should send Pep to the pub whilst the back 4 trains tbh.
Neville Kneville
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You sure, if he does not ask for a move, don't the selling club have to pay his contract out in full?
Yes, but it's not us, the fans, he will be negotiating with, so the is no advantage to him lying to us about staying, if he is likely moving.
If we do want him out, we'll do what's required.
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I would love us to sign Zakaria for midfield. Bonus if he solves that problem too.
I don't think Stones is that different in pace to Laporte, when fit, just his brain switches off. I think they should send Pep to the pub whilst the back 4 trains tbh.
Zakaria came of age this year one of the best in Europe, so it was a bit of a surprise to see him put in defense, still did a good job, recon Stones and Laporte do have the same pace, but it is Stones who can not do the high back line
I don't think Stones is that different in pace to Laporte, when fit, just his brain switches off. I think they should send Pep to the pub whilst the back 4 trains tbh.
Zakaria came of age this year one of the best in Europe, so it was a bit of a surprise to see him put in defense, still did a good job, recon Stones and Laporte do have the same pace, but it is Stones who can not do the high back line
A player who has his agent talking to other clubs & is on the verge of leaving, would not normally be telling us he is looking forward to playing here in the future.
It surely happend before in the world of football?
Unusual when they don't! and it's a sure sign something is in the pipeline!It surely happend before in the world of football?
All respect to Stones, but him extending would be the worst news of the summer. Cash in and buy serious quality.
Honestly, I think the club already decided to sell him and while Garcia leaving will make things a bit trickier, I still think he’s off, no matter what he says on social media.
Honestly, I think the club already decided to sell him and while Garcia leaving will make things a bit trickier, I still think he’s off, no matter what he says on social media.
Neville Kneville
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It surely happend before in the world of football?
It could happen now, if City dump him.
But most likely it was posted for the opposite reason.
Neville Kneville
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Unusual when they don't! and it's a sure sign something is in the pipeline!
So every time one of our players posts how happy he is to be here & is looking forward to more of it, he really means he's looking to get away & is just winding the fans up, to be a **** ?
Does that also count for Pep, saying something similar about staying ?
I take public soundbites with a pinch of salt, they have little or no meaning.So every time one of our players posts how happy he is to be here & is looking forward to more of it, he really means he's looking to get away & is just winding the fans up, to be a **** ?
Does that also count for Pep, saying something similar about staying ?
John Stones has hardly been anywhere near the 1st team this season despite a serious injury to our No1 CB and the loss of our captain.
Sometimes words are not needed.
It could happen now, if City dump him.
But most likely it was posted for the opposite reason.
City acknowledged it was 4 years ago yesterday that Stones joined the club. Imagine Stones only replying ”Yay, that was a good day” and not adding anything to it.
That would cause the rumours to go nuts about him leaving.
People forget the key thing said about Stones the last couple of weeks.
Pep (maybe not word for word): ”We will have a talk after the season about his future. I want what is best for him.”
Doesn’t really suggest Pep wants him around anymore. I think Stones Instagram post means nothing.
Neville Kneville
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City acknowledged it was 4 years ago yesterday that Stones joined the club. Imagine Stones only replying ”Yay, that was a good day” and not adding anything to it.
That would cause the rumours to go nuts about him leaving.
People forget the key thing said about Stones the last couple of weeks.
Pep (maybe not word for word): ”We will have a talk after the season about his future. I want what is best for him.”
Doesn’t really suggest Pep wants him around anymore. I think Stones Instagram post means nothing.
So at a time when every media outlet is talking about Stones leaving, he posts that he's staying & it's pure coincidence.
Pep may indeed sack him, but obviously Stones doesn't think so.
Neville Kneville
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I take public soundbites with a pinch of salt, they have little or no meaning.
John Stones has hardly been anywhere near the 1st team this season despite a serious injury to our No1 CB and the loss of our captain.
Sometimes words are not needed.
Even if those words are 'wishful thinking'.
Stones would actually be the best 4th choice cb in the world, if he stayed & probably a safer bet early season, than a brand new player, with no pre season.
So at a time when every media outlet is talking about Stones leaving, he posts that he's staying & it's pure coincidence.
Pep may indeed sack him, but obviously Stones doesn't think so.
Of course he doesn’t think so, but he could still sense his time might be up. Aké just joined and the club doesn’t seem finished with their business yet. City is probably waiting to drop the ball on him after the Champions League. If they told John now ”you’re not part of our plans for next season”, his head wouldn’t be right for the remainder of the UCL.
Stones is assuming he’ll stay next season, and why not, he is our player.
Are you on his PR team?Even if those words are 'wishful thinking'.
Stones would actually be the best 4th choice cb in the world, if he stayed & probably a safer bet early season, than a brand new player, with no pre season.
I don't get why you defend him so much, he has let the club down badly in my opinion.
And if he is happy to be 4th choice CB at City, I definitely don't want him at our club.
Neville Kneville
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Are you on his PR team?
I don't get why you defend him so much, he has let the club down badly in my opinion.
I agree. He has fucked up.
But he would still be the best 4th choice cb in the world & possibly a safer bet, early season, than a new cb who has never played in City's team & had no pre season.
And if he did get his shit together, he'd probably end up 1st choice again.
If, as I suspect, Pep has told him he is getting the chance to redeem himself, it's well worth the gamble imo, provided we are signing another cb.
Neville Kneville
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Of course he doesn’t think so, but he could still sense his time might be up. Aké just joined and the club doesn’t seem finished with their business yet. City is probably waiting to drop the ball on him after the Champions League. If they told John now ”you’re not part of our plans for next season”, his head wouldn’t be right for the remainder of the UCL.
Stones is assuming he’ll stay next season, and why not, he is our player.
Garcia is going & it appears Otamendi is going, so unlikely Stones is going.
I understand your argument, but to me he has had long enough.I agree. He has fucked up.
But he would still be the best 4th choice cb in the world & possibly a safer bet, early season, than a new cb who has never played in City's team & had no pre season.
And if he did get his shit together, he'd probably end up 1st choice again.
If, as I suspect, Pep has told him he is getting the chance to redeem himself, it's well worth the gamble imo, provided we are signing another cb.
His physical appearance looks terrible and is his own making. He looks a very different man to the one who signed 4 years ago.
And the biggest worry is the "injury" post covid lock down, despite publicly stating he was in a massive fitness/health drive during the lockdown.
When he reappeared he looked like a tramp and not a professional athlete.
I do worry if he is "injured" if you get my drift.
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