Jonny Evans

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Dribble said:
After all we've been through to get Pep, he's got to be the most powerful manager City have ever had. I'm not saying he hasn't got an extensive team of scouts & experts helping him & Txiki telling him what his budget is, but can you really imagine Pep Guardiola being told by Manchester City 'Here's Jonny Evans. Like it or not, deal with it'?

No Chance! :-)
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If that's all the budget will allow...If the club want HG with PL experience
Pep has the final say on big transfers ...this isn't one
you think Pep will walk out if we do/don't sign Evans...no chance
It's not a big enough transfer
 
flobo said:
If that's all the budget will allow...If the club want HG with PL experience
Pep has the final say on big transfers ...this isn't one
you think Pep will walk out if we do/don't sign Evans...no chance
It's not a big enough transfer
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I think our interest in Evans is down to him being the best available form the money we have left after a summer of heavy spending. If Evans was worse than Mangala, Pep wouldn't be allowing him to leave for Inter and chasing Evans. By all account, Evans is a very capable CD, but it all comes down to 'Capable for how much money'. Our recent transformation from last season up to the present has got Pep stamped all over it.
 
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Seriously does Pep or any fucker else see us winning the chumps league with a back line of Otamendi, Stones Johnny fucking Evans and an injury prone Vinny, left exposed due to our high line and our tactic of constant attack and forward play ?
 
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Dribble said:
I think Evans is just down to the best available form the money we have left after a summer of heavy spending. If Evans was worse than Mangala, Pep wouldn't be allowing him to leave for Inter and chasing Evans. By all account, Evans is a very capable CD, but it all comes down to 'Capable for how much money'. Our recent transformation from last season up to the present has got Pep stamped all over it.
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I think your ignoring the way we play mate

were not West Brom, we attack constantly our CD's are left exposed, remember Demechelis being found out big time as will Johnny
 
argyle said:
We want to be at the level of Barca, Bayern, Real, PSG etc.

Would they sign players like Evans?
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back in 2014, Barcelona spent 20 mil Euro on some guy called Mathieu, an older, unimpressive centre half, really a spitting image of Evans. he helped them win a treble in his first season there, offering much needed relief to their main men in lesser games.
 
Daz_Blue said:
Evans is not expected to join City until West Brom have signed a replacement, with Kevin Wimmer lined up. [The Times]


The only time i would like a Wimmer to drown
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I thought we'd moved on and got past this idea because of the ridiculous price? Honestly do no want! Not good enough in my opinion and definitely not fast enough with our high line as a matter of fact(pairing him with Ota who is just about fast enough could be a nightmare). Then I was thinking about his previous injury record, switching to a team who will ask him to run far more and at a higher pace could well set off another spate of injuries.

If it was just for one season is the only way it makes sense and he's not moving for one season. Next season we will want a VVD or similar and we will be struggling to get rid again.
 
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nimrod said:
I think your ignoring the way we play mate

were not West Brom, we attack constantly our CD's are left exposed, remember Demechelis being found out big time as will Johnny
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Between Txiki Begiristain & Pep Guardiola they would have enough experience & expert data to have taken our system and the players needed to make it work into account wouldn't you think?

I mean, wasn't the lack of pace and stamina the reason we jettisoned Kolarov, Clichy, Sagna & Zabaleta and the lack of high end quality the reason behind the rumours of Mangala to Inter?
 
Dribble said:
Between Txiki Begiristain & Pep Guardiola they would have enough experience & expert data to have taken our system and the players needed to make it work into account wouldn't you think?

I mean, wasn't the lack of pace and stamina the reason we jettisoned Kolarov, Clichy, Sagna & Zabaleta and the lack of high end quality the reason behind the rumours of Mangala to Inter?
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Well with all this expert analysis and data they still bought mangala, they still bought Bravo and they still played Sane at left back.
 
flobo said:
If that's all the budget will allow...If the club want HG with PL experience
Pep has the final say on big transfers ...this isn't one
you think Pep will walk out if we do/don't sign Evans...no chance
It's not a big enough transfer
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I think you've just created a strawman to suit your argument by asserting that Pep has a say on the the big transfers and not on the smaller ones, then you've used your assertion to conclude that this isn't a Pep signing because it isn't big enough.
Unless of course you know for a fact that this is the case, which I don't think you possibly could.
 
It's unthinkable to suggest that Guardiola hasn't personally approved of a move for Evans. Presumably he thinks that, for the budget we have remaining, Evans ticks a lot of boxes - homegrown, left sided, experienced, leadership qualities, familiar with the league etc.

Still seems expensive given his age, but in many regards it's a fairly pragmatic, if somewhat underwhelming, signing.
 
Ric said:
It's unthinkable to suggest that Guardiola hasn't personally approved of a move for Evans. Presumably he thinks that, for the budget we have remaining, Evans ticks a lot of boxes - homegrown, left sided, experienced, leadership qualities, familiar with the league etc.

Still seems expensive given his age, but in many regards it's a fairly pragmatic, if somewhat underwhelming, signing.
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Intersting that those qualities listed...none really are physical skill based
 
The-Dogs-Pollocks said:
Well with all this expert analysis and data they still bought mangala, they still bought Bravo and they still played Sane at left back.
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He who has never made an error in his life, please stand up. :-)

We are defined by our mistakes and how much we learn from them. Pellegrini was involved in the purchase of Mangala, Pep sent him on loan as soon as he arrived at the Etihad, that is learning by your mistakes. We made an honest error with Bravo, but are you saying we should have stuck with Hart? Have you seen how he's been performing recently?

Pep played Sane as a left wing back because Mendy is still out. He realised his error and so not to make that error again, he's now in for another left back to solve the problem, again learning from his mistakes. It will take him a season to get his philosophy across to the several new players we have and to settle on his tactics for this season, he now just needs to complete his purchases and decide on tactics going forward, I'm confident enough in him that he'll eventually get it right.
 
City_Sean said:
Arsenal wanted him last summer. Before that he'd been at United for seven years. Now whilst I fucking hate them playing under a manager such as Ferguson must mean he has some ounce of quality? Or should our club just be petty because someone once played for our rival?
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Not once have I said I didn't want him because he played for them. I don't want him because he isn't good enough. Arsenal probably walked away because of asking price as we should do. They pursued other options. Utd let him go for a reason. For something like 6mil. It's a stupid amount of money being quoted for a player that is well past his average best.
 
Ric said:
It's unthinkable to suggest that Guardiola hasn't personally approved of a move for Evans. Presumably he thinks that, for the budget we have remaining, Evans ticks a lot of boxes - homegrown, left sided, experienced, leadership qualities, familiar with the league etc.
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No, no, no, this is a Txiki only signing being foisted on Pep, oh and he's rag too (not Txiki, well probably not anyway).

Unthinkable Ludicrous more like.
 
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