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Colin Bells Boots said:

And a great result for " not getting them done " imo.

Didn't notice a huge disadvantage to the team by either not coming to the club .
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Look I agree with your general point but you can't notice an advantage either way because they didn't sign.

We might have won the chumps league with them in the team and got 106 points or the addition of two wazzocks might have crashed the dressing room. We can't possible know what impact they would have had.
 
I'm guessing the club are taking the proposed FFP2 into account and it's mooted €100m transfer cap.

If this comes into effect then fees will fall and wages will rocket. We won't want to be on the wrong side of that equation.
 
shak said:
Look I agree with your general point but you can't notice an advantage either way because they didn't sign.

We might have won the chumps league with them in the team and got 106 points or the addition of two wazzocks might have crashed the dressing room. We can't possible know what impact they would have had.
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Agreed and we will never know what might have happened , but that is the same for any transfer that doesn't get over the line, and I don't see the point of using it as a stick to beat the club with .

It's obvious that some of the posters think that the transfer of a player is clearly a piece of piss, the selling club should just roll over because it's City who are trying to sign their player, and any failure is due to the incompetence of our negotiators.
 
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dave_blue12 said:
I'm guessing the club are taking the proposed FFP2 into account and it's mooted €100m transfer cap.

If this comes into effect then fees will fall and wages will rocket. We won't want to be on the wrong side of that equation.
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just looked on google about this 100m transfer cap ,and there was nothing on it, is this a made up bluemoon rule to justify the notion of fifa or eufa are out to get us ?
 
TRUE BLUE NO1 said:
We already getting him below the market value for DM this summer if the reported 45-48mil offer was correct, so could understand Napoli feeling cheated.

For FFP, doesnt the cost get spread over the length of the players contract? So in this case, Jorginho is reportedly getting a 5yr deal so we potentially talking 400k extra on the books this year. If a team like Chelsea jumped in (as an example) even if he has picked us, it could still cause us to lift our offer or have to walk away, which could cost us alot more than 400k? Remember this would also be in add-ons, not fixed fee so we could be talking 1mil of this amount for winning the CL, which "might" never happen....

Hopefully whatever is going on, both teams can find a balance soon and we can close thread!;)
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We'll have our value we're prepared to pay for him. If we can save a few million on the asking price for the sake of another week or so that's great for us.
 
moomba said:
Because €2.5m is still a decent amount of money.
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Not if, those principles mean we have now downgraded our targets to such an extent that the likes Jack Welshite or Andros Townsend now represent the only other realistic alternatives to our original realistic alternatives, it isn’t.
 
Neville Kneville said:
It's a proposal rather than a law, if I remember rightly.
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a proposal from who ?all I read that it was a "leak" sounds like bullshit to me ,which club in their right mind would vote for this ,the old g14 wouldn't ,it would wreck transfer fees completely imagine united trying to offload Pogba and clubs are limited to 100m,juventus with higuian ,city with kdb,liverpool with vvd it just wont happen ,not that I think it was ever going to happen ,sounds like media bullshit to me.
 
GeorgeHeslop'sTackle. said:
Not if, those principles mean we have now downgraded our targets to such an extent that the likes Jack Welshite or Andros Townsend now represent the only other realistic alternatives to our original realistic alternatives, it isn’t.
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That's some stretch to go from negotiating for Jorginho to having Wilshire or Townsend as the only viable alternatives.
 
dave_blue12 said:
I'm guessing the club are taking the proposed FFP2 into account and it's mooted €100m transfer cap.

If this comes into effect then fees will fall and wages will rocket. We won't want to be on the wrong side of that equation.
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Mate thats just a rumour. It will never happen. Every big club is a big club because of their financial power, why would they limit their own financial advantage over the other teams in their leagues? If suddenly Southampton have the same financial power as Liverpool the only reason players have to join the traditional big teams is because they have a better squad in that moment, and if everyone is spending the same that won't be the case for long. Then we will see clubs have no reason to sell at all, after all they gain no advantage, having the same amount of money to spend every year regardless. The cash injection might help smaller sides in lower leauges but a few million either way won't make a difference to smaller teams in the first divisions, especially teams like the dog botherers who already have a new stadium etc.

Basically why would anyone vote for it? For the smaller teams they don't gain any advantage and for the really powerful big teams they would just be voting to fuck themselves over. Is that really worth it to stop us and PSG?

Plus if it did come into effect I don't think it would hurt us nearly as much as anyone else. We have a football manager esque squad of wonderkids with potential, we can field a pretty impressive 11 of under 26 players, so we could probably operate fairly okay on a 100 million budget but teams like Juventus, Madrid, the rags etc who have ageing squads with serious holes would be properly fucked.
 
GeorgeHeslop'sTackle. said:
Not if, those principles mean we have now downgraded our targets to such an extent that the likes Jack Welshite or Andros Townsend now represent the only other realistic alternatives to our original realistic alternatives, it isn’t.
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Townsend as the deepest lying midfielder, hmmmm... Have you taken your meds?
 
Just popped on to answer the £100 mill net spend FFP2 misunderstanding.

The original rules of FFP1 still apply. However if a club hit the 100 mill they can be investigated immediately but to see if there is any breach of the original rules. This was because Bara and RM complained that clubs weren’t investigated quickly enough.

It’s all a bit toothless in reality.
 
Cobwebcat said:
Just popped on to answer the £100 mill net spend FFP2 misunderstanding.

The original rules of FFP1 still apply. However if a club hit the 100 mill they can be investigated immediately but to see if there is any breach of the original rules. This was because Bara and RM complained that clubs weren’t investigated quickly enough.

It’s all a bit toothless in reality.
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It's all because somebody triggered a release clause that Barca thought nobody would ever would pay.
 
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