Jovetic - set for Inter medical (page 106)

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He has struggled to put a consistent run in the team and the time we needed him the most (injuries to the rest of our strikers) he was injured. £15m tops is the best we can do.
 
Damanino said:
City Watch @City_Watch · 25 min

Inter will negotiate with City a loan deal + obligation to buy for between £10.7m-£13m for Jovetic after meeting his agent. (via @DiMarzio)

Muhhhhhaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha.

To get a player with Jovetic's potential/skills (despite injury problems) for around 12m pounds that can only ever happen if the seller is Man City.

Its one thing he flopped here because we didnt have a manager who knows how to use him tactically or just keep him fit and then trashed his confidence with CL axe etc, (or simply wasnt a good fit from the start that makes me question did Pelle want him or Txiki thought he could be good for us without really thinking to build the side around him as he was at Fiorentina.)

But if its true its such a big joke. 12-13m, we couldnt buy Matt Jarvis for that or Downing ffs. Stoke would ask that for Charlie Adam lol.

Jovetic is still a hot player for Italian clubs. Juve certainly can pay bigger amounts they will rake in quite big from CL money given they "steal" a lot from Italian market Pool as Roma finished early while Napoli didnt even get into group stage while Juve got very far. They could be making nearly 2x as much from CL as us or any other English club.

Italian clubs are skint and won't pay big money, other than possibly Juventus. You can only sell for what a club will pay. Inter and the rest have to abide by FFP as well.

As an example Chelsea loaned Salah to Fiorentina. They'd have sold him but Fiorentina didn't have the money to buy him. But because he's done very well there his price has gone up.

If you want to sell you have to sell to the Premier League if you want good money. Sunderland offered £15m for Borini but he wouldn't go because he'd only leave for Italy. Liverpool only had loan bids on offer.
 
sam-caddick said:
pudge said:
If we want to demand a bigger fee then it would be best to at least have him on the bench and play him a bit more rather than give him the cold shoulder like the club are currently doing and did with Nastasic.

We don't have a leg to stand on when negotiating if the player wants out, or is at least open to a move, and we don't even play him.

My thoughts as well.

I reckon we will struggle to make 50m on outgoings this summer.

Probably but the wage savings should be substantial if we can get 7 or 8 out,
 
gazzaa2 said:
Damanino said:
City Watch @City_Watch · 25 min

Inter will negotiate with City a loan deal + obligation to buy for between £10.7m-£13m for Jovetic after meeting his agent. (via @DiMarzio)

Muhhhhhaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha.

To get a player with Jovetic's potential/skills (despite injury problems) for around 12m pounds that can only ever happen if the seller is Man City.

Its one thing he flopped here because we didnt have a manager who knows how to use him tactically or just keep him fit and then trashed his confidence with CL axe etc, (or simply wasnt a good fit from the start that makes me question did Pelle want him or Txiki thought he could be good for us without really thinking to build the side around him as he was at Fiorentina.)

But if its true its such a big joke. 12-13m, we couldnt buy Matt Jarvis for that or Downing ffs. Stoke would ask that for Charlie Adam lol.

Jovetic is still a hot player for Italian clubs. Juve certainly can pay bigger amounts they will rake in quite big from CL money given they "steal" a lot from Italian market Pool as Roma finished early while Napoli didnt even get into group stage while Juve got very far. They could be making nearly 2x as much from CL as us or any other English club.

Italian clubs are skint and won't pay big money, other than possibly Juventus. You can only sell for what a club will pay. Inter and the rest have to abide by FFP as well.

As an example Chelsea loaned Salah to Fiorentina. They'd have sold him but Fiorentina didn't have the money to buy him. But because he's done very well there his price has gone up.

If you want to sell you have to sell to the Premier League if you want good money. Sunderland offered £15m for Borini but he wouldn't go because he'd only leave for Italy. Liverpool only had loan bids on offer.

Jovetic is not quite as good as some people think. He certainly wouldn't start at Chelsea, Arsenal or United. He's not rated by many now as much better that a very good squad player. Someone that can cover the top forwards/AMC's when they are unavailable cos of injury or suspension.

Mancini certainly wouldn't recommend Inter shelling out on him till he's had a comprehensive medical. If they do get him it will almost certainly be on loan with an option to buy. That would be the necessary insurance given the players unreliable injury record. If any club, irrespective of who they are, wanted to sign Jovetic now I reckon City would be able to demand a sum of around €15m to €17m tops. As for Toure City should play hardball with Inter, They have two players that could be subject to any negotiations, Icardi and Guarin. if he were sold on a cash basis only I hope City are able to demand a minumum of €15m.

Inter and Roma are the2 Italian clubs that have been given warnings about FFP's restrictions and Inter will have to be careful with their transfer dealings. Juve on the other hand have started to see a big improvement in their finances and would have little problem in shelling out for him (Jovetic). They are notoriously parsimonious though and tend the do things on the cheap as we all know, They'd probably offer the sort of money that completed the Tevez deal two years ago when they got him for a bargain €10m.

Talking of Juve's finances, they are breaking the €300 million turnover wall for the first time in the club's history. This after years of losses follow the Calciopoli judgement in 2006. As far as i understand it is all without the new money from Adidas and Jeep sponsorships and the new TV contract for 2015-2018, They have announced to the Italian stock market that they are forecasting a profit of €90m following the extra €10m they will receive to CL semi-final qualification . Also there will be even much more money in the CL next season, thanks to two things: The new Mediaset deal that is huge & the general financial upgrade from UEFA regarding prize money.

They have still a long way to go, but the financial achievements of the last 4 years are as impressive as the achievements on the field. In order to catch up with the best of the best financially they have to continue this path and have to hope that the next TV contract that will be negotiated in 2017 will be massive. For that to happen the whole italian football movement has to grow though. Especially considering that the Bundesliga and La Liga will negotiate a new deal a year earlier that needs to be surpassed by the Serie A in the months following.
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I was talking recently with some Italian guy, and we have extremely bad image in Italy as a club. Exactly because of these deals, buy high priced players then sell them for peanuts.)
(Adebayor+RSC are prime examples even tho they didnt go to Italy.)

Its like a regular part of their summer transfer window system to loo at City squad and check who they can get for some laughable price with quality.
De Jong+Tevez two very good example.
Combined 15m fee for these two.

When we have a reputation like this, there is no doubt about clubs offer us laughable prices for players. Getting a player like Jovetic for 10-12m, he is on the younger side too, with lots of potential, thats a fantastic deal for the buyer club if they can do it. If they do it with loan+option thats even better.

Jovetic cost us about 23m pounds, 5 year contract, his value now around 14m. In accounting terms we wouldnt make a loss on him or only 1-2m loss. But believe me many other clubs would make a nice profit on him even in this same scenario.

But I would wait for the new manager, who knows, maybe he would say he needs Jojo and also able to find his space/role in the team. Clearly Pelle was never thinking on it much. If Pelle stays of course selling him is the best idea.
 
GoMancini7 said:
I was talking recently with some Italian guy, and we have extremely bad image in Italy as a club. Exactly because of these deals, buy high priced players then sell them for peanuts.)
(Adebayor+RSC are prime examples even tho they didnt go to Italy.)

Its like a regular part of their summer transfer window system to loo at City squad and check who they can get for some laughable price with quality.
De Jong+Tevez two very good example.
Combined 15m fee for these two.

When we have a reputation like this, there is no doubt about clubs offer us laughable prices for players. Getting a player like Jovetic for 10-12m, he is on the younger side too, with lots of potential, thats a fantastic deal for the buyer club if they can do it. If they do it with loan+option thats even better.

Jovetic cost us about 23m pounds, 5 year contract, his value now around 14m. In accounting terms we wouldnt make a loss on him or only 1-2m loss. But believe me many other clubs would make a nice profit on him even in this same scenario.

But I would wait for the new manager, who knows, maybe he would say he needs Jojo and also able to find his space/role in the team. Clearly Pelle was never thinking on it much. If Pelle stays of course selling him is the best idea.

City's problem in the transfer market is 100% attributable to the BTOOTW attitude that the vast majority of City fans applauded in the years 2010 to 2013 when picking up players at inflated prices. Obviously the FFP regualations have now hamstrung the club.

Italian clubs, and to a degree Spanish second wave clubs (Valencia, Sevilla, etc) recognize this and realize that City are happy to sell at a discount because there is also the vast amounts that are being saved on the wage bill at the Etihad.
 
Tez Tosterone said:
GoMancini7 said:
I was talking recently with some Italian guy, and we have extremely bad image in Italy as a club. Exactly because of these deals, buy high priced players then sell them for peanuts.)
(Adebayor+RSC are prime examples even tho they didnt go to Italy.)

Its like a regular part of their summer transfer window system to loo at City squad and check who they can get for some laughable price with quality.
De Jong+Tevez two very good example.
Combined 15m fee for these two.

When we have a reputation like this, there is no doubt about clubs offer us laughable prices for players. Getting a player like Jovetic for 10-12m, he is on the younger side too, with lots of potential, thats a fantastic deal for the buyer club if they can do it. If they do it with loan+option thats even better.

Jovetic cost us about 23m pounds, 5 year contract, his value now around 14m. In accounting terms we wouldnt make a loss on him or only 1-2m loss. But believe me many other clubs would make a nice profit on him even in this same scenario.

But I would wait for the new manager, who knows, maybe he would say he needs Jojo and also able to find his space/role in the team. Clearly Pelle was never thinking on it much. If Pelle stays of course selling him is the best idea.

City's problem in the transfer market is 100% attributable to the BTOOTW attitude that the vast majority of City fans applauded in the years 2010 to 2013 when picking up players at inflated prices. Obviously the FFP regualations have now hamstrung the club.

Italian clubs, and to a degree Spanish second wave clubs (Valencia, Sevilla, etc) recognize this and realize that City are happy to sell at a discount because there is also the vast amounts that are being saved on the wage bill at the Etihad.
£25m for negrado ???

great discount
 
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