Joy Division / New Order thread

[Nightmare Walking]

http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/mar/19/peter-hook-if-my-son-joined-new-order-at-least-theyd-get-the-bass-played-properly?CMP=share_btn_tw

Very interesting Q & A with Hooky.

He really is a horrid cvnt. New Order are my fave ever band and I acknowledge the efforts he put in. BUT I reckon New order will be better without him.
Roll on the new album and tour :-)

 

[PinkFinal]

Poll of New Order songs

http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2017/11/28/best-new-order-songs-ranked/

 

[Gazza]

New Order had the more commercial success but Joy Division had much more soul. Ian Curtis always sung at full tilt and you could hear his emotion in the songs (especially live), therefore Joy Division > New Order.
Sorry to anyone under 45.

 

[MCFCTrick]

Grew up with JD, but NO for me.

 

[Ban-jani]

Joy Division

 

[roman totale]

I think Closer is the greatest album ever made, but overall I think NO>JD

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

It's a bit like comparing raw and refined sugar.

I'm going for the rawness of Joy Division over the refined New Order.

 

[MillisleBlue]

Hard to imagine anything much better than this:

 

[yeseye]

Substance is probably my favourite album and I loved Technique early 90s.
Happy days!

 

[Deleted member 77198]

I have both of Joy Division’s albums but I seem to prefer more tracks of theirs that weren’t on either album:
Digital
Transmission
Atmosphere
Love Will Tear Us Apart
etc.

What’s the deal with those tracks, were they just singles and B-sides? Or is there another album I just don’t know about with them on?

 

[bakerdave76]

Joy division, lucky enough to see the a few times .

 

[allblackcitizen]

That's like being asked to choose between your children, but if I have to, JD.

 

[Stuuuuuu]

Joy Division by a billion trillion lightyears. What a ridiculous question.

 

[meeesh]

Substance is probably my favourite album and I loved Technique early 90s.
Happy days!

Substance was /is brilliant

 

[Barcon]

I have both of Joy Division’s albums but I seem to prefer more tracks of theirs that weren’t on either album:
Digital
Transmission
Atmosphere
Love Will Tear Us Apart
etc.

What’s the deal with those tracks, were they just singles and B-sides? Or is there another album I just don’t know about with them on?

Singles that are on the album "substance".

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Are there more great New Order songs or more great Joy Division songs? I'd say the former for the most basic of reasons -- they've been around longer to produce them. JD were more "influential", more "groundbreaking", "darker" and "more original" , but the amount of quality music NO has produced over so long makes me pick them. Prolific matters. And I love them both.

 

[squirtyflower]

Are there more great New Order songs or more great Joy Division songs? I'd say the former for the most basic of reasons -- they've been around longer to produce them. JD were more "influential", more "groundbreaking", "darker" and "more original" , but the amount of quality music NO has produced over so long makes me pick them. Prolific matters. And I love them both.

Joy Division!

 

[squirtyflower]

Singles that are on the album "substance".

A compilation, not a ‘real’ album

 

[RACHACE]

Joy division for me. Songs have more substance and speak to me more on a personal level. However loads of new order songs make me feel good.

 

[Nightmare Walking]

New Order for me. My fave ever band alongside Depeche Mode. The pair of them have shaped my life like nothing else.

Would Joy Division have gone the same way as New Order did, with the full integration of electronics, if Ian Curtis had not died