Joy Division / New Order thread

FogBlueInSanFran said:
So I can cop to She's Lost Control and LWTUA and Transmission as better than anything NO ever did. But on balance there are more songs by NO I love because they put forth an immense number of really great tunes, and Ian Curtis is dead and therefore has no say in the matter.

NO is my favo(u)rite band of all time ever. If I had to do without one of them, how am I going to do without my favo(u)rite band? I'm not.
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Understandable, however when Joy Division became New Order they were still playing post punk music. Mostly enjoyable, better quality of musicianship but without the dynamic vocals of Curtis.
Then I went through a period where I despised their move towards the New York scene and the introduction of the drum machine where there was once the best drummer around. Blue Monday became the antithesis of ‘good’ music.
Took me about ten years to forgive them and get back into them when I bought Substance, and started playing their music again.

For those interested the best compilation, by some considerable distance, was/is Heart and Soul....
 
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No. Title Writer(s) Length
1. "Ceremony" Joy Division 4:23
2. "Everything's Gone Green" 5:30
3. "Temptation" 6:59
4. "Blue Monday" 7:29
5. "Confusion" New Order, Arthur Baker 4:43
6. "Thieves Like Us" New Order, Arthur Baker 6:36
7. "The Perfect Kiss" 8:02
8. "Sub-culture" 4:48
9. "Shellshock" New Order, John Robie 6:28
10. "State of the Nation" 6:32
11. "Bizarre Love Triangle" 6:44
12. "True Faith" New Order, Stephen Hague 5:55
Total length: 74:09
Disc two
No. Title Writer(s) Length
1. "In a Lonely Place" Joy Division 6:16
2. "Procession" 4:27
3. "Cries and Whispers" (incorrectly labeled as "Mesh") 3:25
4. "Hurt" 6:58
5. "The Beach" 7:19
6. "Confused Instrumental" New Order, Arthur Baker 7:38
7. "Lonesome Tonight" 5:11
8. "Murder" 3:55
9. "Thieves Like Us" (instrumental) New Order, Arthur Baker 6:57
10. "Kiss of Death" 7:02
11. "Shame of the Nation" New Order, John Robie 7:54
12. "1963" New Order, Stephen Hague 5:35
 
meeesh said:
We talking Substance 1987 New Order here right ?
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No mate.

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I have both of Joy Division’s albums but I seem to prefer more tracks of theirs that weren’t on either album:
Digital
Transmission
Atmosphere
Love Will Tear Us Apart
etc.

What’s the deal with those tracks, were they just singles and B-sides? Or is there another album I just don’t know about with them on?

Singles that are on the album "substance".
 
Barcon said:
No mate.

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I have both of Joy Division’s albums but I seem to prefer more tracks of theirs that weren’t on either album:
Digital
Transmission
Atmosphere
Love Will Tear Us Apart
etc.

What’s the deal with those tracks, were they just singles and B-sides? Or is there another album I just don’t know about with them on?

Singles that are on the album "substance".
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Bit of a mix mate really,12 " tracks as well,although there are a couple that were Joy Division written,but none of the above you mention are on New Order Substance album,when New Order started to go a bit more disco / synth way.

Power Corruption & Lies was more a Joy Division type of music album by New Order though,contrasting styles between the 2,but none of the above are on that album neither !

God Knows mate.
 
meeesh said:
Bit of a mix mate really,12 " tracks as well,although there are a couple that were Joy Division written,but none of the above you mention are on New Order Substance album,when New Order started to go a bit more disco / synth way.

Power Corruption & Lies was more a Joy Division type of music album by New Order though,contrasting styles between the 2,but none of the above are on that album neither !

God Knows mate.
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We were talking about Joy Divisionmate. They both put out an album called Substance. I saw Peter Hook last year doing both albums. It was great. : )
 
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