Jude Bellingham

[hilts]

Hugely overrated unless he actually signs for us.

 

[mattcity5]

ya that is exactly how our defense falls apart. I prefer to put bellingham in KDB's position as he is not defensively that good and put a different type of player in gundo's position, someone who is measured in controlling the game. bellingham is a runner so it makes sense to play him in a more attacking position.

if you play bellingham deeper he will abandon his position and leave gaps there, hence why I am pretty sure pep will play bellingham higher up in KDB's position. Remember how bellingham got dominated by USA midfield? when southgate put henderson and told bellingham to play higher then he became amazing and started to drive and get into the box.

The whole England team struggled against USA's pressing, partly because Stones was the only defender comfortable enough on the ball. Put the rest of the City team around him and it's a different world compared to England. You could still be right though, Bellingham's capable of playing higher up. Hopefully we'll sign him and find out how it goes next season.

 

[Bluemoon has risen]

ya that is exactly how our defense falls apart. I prefer to put bellingham in KDB's position as he is not defensively that good and put a different type of player in gundo's position, someone who is measured in controlling the game. bellingham is a runner so it makes sense to play him in a more attacking position.

if you play bellingham deeper he will abandon his position and leave gaps there, hence why I am pretty sure pep will play bellingham higher up in KDB's position. Remember how bellingham got dominated by USA midfield? when southgate put henderson and told bellingham to play higher then he became amazing and started to drive and get into the box.

I understand what you're saying but we play differently to England. We often invert one of our full backs to play alongside Rodri so we'd probably just do that to give us the control. Bellingham has the legs to get up and down the pitch unlike KDB and Gundagon.

I was watching the Wolves game with a keen eye on the midfield and both KDB and Gundagon played high. KDB used to be that box to box midfielder and Gundagon had that half a yard of initial pace to nip away from defenders but they're in their 30s now so they don't get away as easily. We're lucky they're very intelligent footballers and find different ways to break opponents down, but I did find myself thinking a young box to box midfielder would make us miles better.

It wouldn't be perfect and would need that initial settling in period to find the best way to work those players but Pep would find a way.

 

[Blue Maverick]

I understand what you're saying but we play differently to England. We often invert one of our full backs to play alongside Rodri so we'd probably just do that to give us the control. Bellingham has the legs to get up and down the pitch unlike KDB and Gundagon.

I was watching the Wolves game with a keen eye on the midfield and both KDB and Gundagon played high. KDB used to be that box to box midfielder and Gundagon had that half a yard of initial pace to nip away from defenders but they're in their 30s now so they don't get away as easily. We're lucky they're very intelligent footballers and find different ways to break opponents down, but I did find myself thinking a young box to box midfielder would make us miles better.

It wouldn't be perfect and would need that initial settling in period to find the best way to work those players but Pep would find a way.

Thought exactly the same, KDB plays to high for me at the moment he doesn’t have any energy, play him further back to get those balls early to the front, Gundogan is blowing after 70 mins these days for me he should be used as a sub to close out a game, Bellingham is our next Fernandinho for 10 years.

 

[supercity88]

Thought exactly the same, KDB plays to high for me at the moment he doesn’t have any energy, play him further back to get those balls early to the front, Gundogan is blowing after 70 mins these days for me he should be used as a sub to close out a game, Bellingham is our next Fernandinho for 10 years.

I watched a bit of Dortmund v Augsburg the other day and he was playing that sort of role. Finding little gaps to receive the ball from defence. He's so strong on the ball he can turn his opponent easily and was then able to play the ball onwards into attacking positions.

He can be whatever we want him to be, but the biggest benefit from his game is the energy. He's effective in the final third, but he's capable of getting up and down the pitch and doing the defensive work as well, as he showed against us this season. The energy he would bring to this side in the middle of the park would be a major progression compared to what we've seen at times. He'd be supporting Haaland/the attacking players one minute and then back to support Rodri the next.

 

[Agueroooo9320]

I understand what you're saying but we play differently to England. We often invert one of our full backs to play alongside Rodri so we'd probably just do that to give us the control. Bellingham has the legs to get up and down the pitch unlike KDB and Gundagon.

I was watching the Wolves game with a keen eye on the midfield and both KDB and Gundagon played high. KDB used to be that box to box midfielder and Gundagon had that half a yard of initial pace to nip away from defenders but they're in their 30s now so they don't get away as easily. We're lucky they're very intelligent footballers and find different ways to break opponents down, but I did find myself thinking a young box to box midfielder would make us miles better.

It wouldn't be perfect and would need that initial settling in period to find the best way to work those players but Pep would find a way.

I watched a bit of Dortmund v Augsburg the other day and he was playing that sort of role. Finding little gaps to receive the ball from defence. He's so strong on the ball he can turn his opponent easily and was then able to play the ball onwards into attacking positions.

He can be whatever we want him to be, but the biggest benefit from his game is the energy. He's effective in the final third, but he's capable of getting up and down the pitch and doing the defensive work as well, as he showed against us this season. The energy he would bring to this side in the middle of the park would be a major progression compared to what we've seen at times. He'd be supporting Haaland/the attacking players one minute and then back to support Rodri the next.

what you both don't understand is that we don't play anything like dortmund. they have a more direct end to end style where players move the ball through dribbling rather than passing. that is the opposite of pep football. I will be surprised if pep allows the midfielder who plays alongside KDB to go around dribbling from midfield. old gundo is nothing like bellingham. only when gundo plays without KDB or in false 9 does he take risks. gundo these days is more reserved and makes a 100 passes and leaves the running to KDB. so either bellingham changes his game or he plays higher up for us.

 

[FantasyIreland]

@supercity88
@Bluemoon has risen

I hope you both understand now!

pmsl.

 

[JewelZee]

The first thing I heard him say about it was "Jude Bellingham is going to be a Liverpool players this summer... unless something drastic happens."

That doesn't sound very bullish to me.

The guy's very obviously full of shit.

Just looking at this fuckhead's face I could never click onto one of his links. He's got degenerate, lowlife plastered all over him.

 

[HypnoticBlue]

A European campaign under Pearce would have probably led to PL relegation, no Thaksin or Sheikh Mansour...

It's honestly the worst football I've ever witnessed from a Manchester City squad.

True, but he did get us within a missed penalty of qualifying for Europe, while none of the ones I mentioned came anywhere close.

Was that the game he put James up front to get the win instead of Macken !

 

[Deleted member 77198]

The more I see of him and the more I see of our current midfield, the more perfect I think he is for us.

He's got the lot, a proper box to box midfielder and were crying out for a young midfielder who will run past people and break the lines, especially as KDB ages.

Put him alongside Rodri and KDB and we will be frightening.

I’ve never been particularly impressed with him and don’t see where ‘he’s got the lot’.

He looks okay, decent for his age, but has he really ‘got the lot’?

He is young though and there’s years and years of improving to come but he completely went missing for most of the two City-Dortmund games this season. He played a few decent passes and a headed goal that Akanji should have headed clear at the Etihad, yet he had just 32 touches in that game, and I don’t remember him doing anything at all in the last hour of their game at their place where he had just 29 touches of the ball in the entire game (Haaland nearly had that many at Old Trafford the other week… Rodri had 142 touches in that game at Dortmund, no that’s not a typo, one hundred and forty-two!). City didn’t really play well in that game and Dortmund were at home and needed to win and he didn’t really do a thing after about the 30min mark.

Then for England in the WC, in both games we faced a decent midfield (against USA and France), I thought he looked quite average. Thought his involvement in the game and passing quality the small amount of times he was involved against France was poor.

There’s a lot of hype around this lad that I’m not entirely sure is merited yet.