Julian Alvarez to leave Atletico?

And had an average first touch and lost ball in multiple occasions

Omar's first touch is pretty wank for someone of his ability. It's great when he's taking the ball into his stride but inconsistent as fuck when he's trying to trap it when tightly marked.

Still better than Alvarez. And I love Alvarez. Just highlights how much we've been spoiled for 15+ years.
 
Didn't he leave us because his family couldn't stay here ? If so can't see him back in the PL, I'm sure bayern will be easier.
Was the weather etc not a factor? I thought he wanted out of England and didn't like living here?

There was a swap talked about last Summer for Luis Diaz, but Alvarez has been talking of getting Romero to Atletico recently. Can't see him leaving after only a year as well. Maybe in a year he might reconsider his options. Barcelona would be favourites as they can offer the type of location and culture that he wants.
 
Not sure Marmoush is as good a player
He’s a better fit for us and as good a goalscorer, he’s much more suited to playing on the left alongside Haaland.

Alvarez was gash in behind, in midfield or on the wing for us. His best football was when Haaland was injured.
 
Tevez and Kun were born cracks, extremely talented players that where more "mediapuntas (off mids)/forwards with goal" than full blown strikers, even if City got the more lazy striker alike version of Kun after Atletico's more dinamic version.

Alvarez even not being born that talented, progresses year after year getting better and has a great all around game and attitude in the pitch and lockerroom. He looks like those players that become "cracks" due to adding layers to their game in their carreers, he looks a lot like this sort of player. He rarely gets injured too, if any, that's quite rare, given his hustling and pace.

People complaining here regarding his touch in City and that by the end he wasn't as good as he started.
Kind of forget that he maybe was too much of a nice guy when between Bernardo, Jack and company and even when Palmer got time, bar Foden and Erling and an ocasional more risky attemp from Kevin, they barely passed the ball in advantaged situations to him.
He was constantly hustling, used as decoy to play Erling and running to space time and again without receiving much and played like jake for all trades while still hustling like a mad men by Pep when injuries started to arise.
Not precisly the best scenario for him, neither in fact is Aleti, yet at least he is more involved in the game by his mates and they have a more direct approach.
BTW it's Pepball and noone can criticize his approach, he just uses players in the way he needs them, no matter if it fits the best profile of the player in question, no matter the name pof them bar very very few exceptions.

In the fist season where he was very electric and positive, he made most of his goals after scraps, a rebound, a long strike, etc.. by the end of his tenure in City, he looked really tired at times even still hustling and not sharp enough. This had to do in part of how much football he had played between River, NT and City non stop, yet he also looked a bit tired too of the whole situation.

Pep should have kept him and when he was gone, properly replaced him asap, Marmoush came to late.

PD1: Regarding Marmoush being "clearly better", "higher cealing"...well that's a bit too much and over the top, given he is one year older and already running from behind.
He isn't remotely close in terms of titles (even if not entirely fair given their respective NTs, yet Julian it's far from a passenger in those and requires some personality to wear and deliver with all those shirts).
Julian also has a tendency to deliver in big games (with goals involved or not, rarely a passenger) and neither is precisly a prolific goalscorer/classic striker so far in their carreers, with even Julian having a tad better percenteage both in goals and assists.
Everyone is entitle to their own taste, yet there is quite some underrating of Julian and overrating Marmoush at this point of their carreers with such statements.

PD2: If he leaves Aleti, the money must be sthg really big to tempt the Club.
The two more logical destinations would be first Barcelona, he fits like a glove there and to a lessser extent Liverpool, they would not be adding a prolific goaslcorer that they actually need, yet having Mac Allister and Alvarez's all around style will suit there.

Manchester United would be quite a surprise, a huge one, do not see that one at all. Arsenal it's more a desire from them than Julian for sure and would imply another risky challenge like Aleti was last year, Barcelona and Liverpool look more like easier bets.

Of all the possible options, the first one it's Aleti reinforcing, building with him at the core of the off mid/attack role a new team or Barca coming like in the past to snatch him.
They are too big, they have a new fantastic core with Pedri, Yamal and cia, their style it's better for him like once was River and he stays with his familiy in a country with a better weather and his language.

The main issue, will be the money Barca lacks and Simeone and Aleti fans certainly not liking this a bit. Aleti fans certainly would deal better with him going there than sthg like Madrid and like it happened in the past for them, they might squezze Barca financially, yet Barca it's not having the bucks to squeeze them, it would all be more a question of what player Barca throws in the mix and Julian willing to join a team that looks like starting a possible legacy with a style that fits him like a glove and viceversa.

Sorry for the long rant
 
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Tevez and Kun were born cracks, extremely talented players that where more "mediapuntas (off mids)/forwards with goal" than full blown strikers, even if City got the more lazy striker alike version of Kun after Atletico's more dinamic version.

Alvarez even not being born that talented, progresses year after year getting better and has a great all around game and attitude in the pitch and lockerroom. He looks like those players that become "cracks" due to adding layers to their game in their carreers, he looks a lot like this sort of player. He rarely gets injured too, if any, that's quite rare, given his hsutling and pace.

People complaining here regarding his touch in City and that by the end he wasn't as good as he started.
Kind of forget that he maybe was too much of a nice guy when between Bernardo, Jack and company and even when Palmer got time, bar Foden and Erling and an ocasional more risky attemp from Kevin, they barely passed the ball in advantaged situations to him.
He was constantly hustling, used as decoy to play Erling and running to space time and again without receiving much and played like jake for all trades while still hustling like a mad men by Pep when injuries started to arise.
Not precisly the best scenario for him, neither in fact is Aleti, yet at least he is more involved in the game by his mates and they have a more direct approach.
BTW it's Pepball and noone can criticize his approach, he just uses players in the way he needs them, no matter if it fits the best profile of the player in question, no matter the name pof them bar very very few exceptions.

In the fist season where he was very electric and positive, he made most of his goals after scraps, a rebound, a long strike, etc.. by the end of his tenure in City, he looked really tired at times even still hustling and not sharp enough. This had to do in part of how much football he had played between River, NT and City non stop, yet he also looked a bit tired too of the whole situation.

Pep should have kept him and when he was gone, properly replaced him asap, Marmoush came to late.

PD1: Regarding Marmoush being "clearly better", "higher cealing"...well that's a bit too much and over the top, given he is one year older and already running from behind.
He isn't remotely close in terms of titles (even if not entirely fair given their respective NTs, yet Julian it's far from a passenger in those and requires some personality to wear and deliver with all those shirts).
Julian also has a tendency to deliver in big games (with goals involved or not, rarely a passenger) and neither is precisly a prolific goalscorer/classic striker so far in their carreers, with even Julian having a tad better percenteage both in goals and assists.
Everyone is entitle to their own taste, yet there is quite some underrating of Julian and overrating Marmoush at this point of their carreers with such statements.

PD2: If he leaves Aleti, the money must be sthg really big to tempt the Club.
The two more logical destinations would be first Barcelona, he fits like a glove there and to a lessser extent Liverpool, they would not be adding a prolific goaslcorer that they actually need, yet having Mac Allister and Alvarez's all around style will suit there.

Manchester United would be quite a surprise, a huge one, do not see that one at all. Arsenal it's more a desire from them than Julian for sure and would imply another risky challenge like Aleti was last year, Barcelona and Liverpool look more like easier bets.

Of all the possible options, the first one it's Aleti reinforcing, building with him at the core of the off mid/attack role a new team or Barca coming like in the past to snatch him.
They are too big, they have a new fantastic core with Pedri, Yamal and cia, their style it's better for him like once was River and he stays with his familiy in a country with a better weather and his language.

The main issue, will be the money Barca lacks and Simeone and Aleti fans certainly not liking this a bit. Aleti fans certainly would deal better with him going there than sthg like Madrid and like it happened in the past for them, they might squezze Barca financially, yet Barca it's not having the bucks to squeeze them, it would all be more a question of what player Barca throws in the mix and Julian willing to join a team that looks like starting a possible legacy with a style that fits him like a glove and viceversa.

Sorry for the long rant

Please could you expand on this a bit more?
 
He seems to have done pretty well in his first season there. Especially scoring 7 in 10 in the Champions League. So it seems odd that he'd want out. Perhaps again he's not playing in his preferred position. I notice that their top league goalscorer is Sørloth with 20, whereas Alvarez has 17. Maybe just like with us, he's actually playing a supporting role rather than being the main man he wants to be. I can't say I've watched them.
 
He seems to have done pretty well in his first season there. Especially scoring 7 in 10 in the Champions League. So it seems odd that he'd want out. Perhaps again he's not playing in his preferred position. I notice that their top league goalscorer is Sørloth with 20, whereas Alvarez has 17. Maybe just like with us, he's actually playing a supporting role rather than being the main man he wants to be. I can't say I've watched them.

He didn't say anything about wanting to leave. It's other clubs trying to buy him what started the speculations and of course if someone like Barcelona and Liverpool come knocking, being as huge as they are, current champs and in pursue of building some legacy, it would be quite tempting.

Sorloth has been very good sharing the scoring burden as a classic striker, for many both should have played together, specially with Grizzie's ups and lows given his age and form (thought he got alone great with Alvarez). BTW Sorloth made 7 of those goals in his last two matches of the season too.

The thing with Alvarez season in Aleti goes beyond his stats (even if his ratio of shooting/scoring was quite better than in the past given Aleti does not put you time and again in scoring positions). He was pretty much their best player in many matches, some very high profile ones. For instance that 2 -0 at the 70 minute against Barca for the League was criminal taking him out by Simoene, dunno what happen there.
 
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i thought one of the reasons he left us to go to atleti was becasue it was easier to get visa's for his family in spain. If he moved to arsenal surely he'd be back to the same issue again.
He left us for playing time.
 

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