Juventus (A) | CL | Post Match Thread

[madloaf]

So they attacked and defended better, that's a corker that is. Yeah we were fine apart from the defending and attacking bit.

M23 is half right, in that 4 times in 90 mins we played some lovely football.

 

[Kamaro011]

We're scared to take risks because we know we're vulnerable. So we play safe and slow, and get punished anyway. That forces us to come out and play with more purpose, but we get punished for that too because we weren't wrong about the vulnerability.

Meek when we should be bold. Brittle when we should be free-flowing.

This is absolutely not just an absence of Rodri problem, but every match we play without him seems to justify that Ballon d'Or more. He certainly does have a useful habit of being everywhere we need him to be on the pitch.

This is reasons of why the talk of Rodri calibre level of player can be done in January is just pure nonsense.

 

[dickie davies]

Whilst there is some truth in that, our system would hide that. At the moment, the structure is hanging them out to dry.

There’s no one to replace them though as they’re all injured.

No mate
We're at least five players short of being contenders again and that's just for the first eleven

 

[marco]

Forget europe, win enough games to get top 4.

this^^^ top four has to be number one prority now to get the right signings but the bottom line is have we got enough in us to do it, sadley i dont think so and can only see us slipping down the table

 

[the blue panther]

Goodness me, that was a hard watch!
How I fondly remember that time we got a cross in. Yes, it was last Saturday, and went right onto the head of our big 6'5'' centre forward. He scored!
I wonder if we'll ever see that happen again?
I bet Haaland thinks that too.

 

[Gabriel]

Bit harsh. At least spare the tea lady.

She doesn’t track back, apparently…

 

[Brendan110_0]

Things are not going to be getting any better until we can get replacements in January, if they do indeed come then. I expect we just have to accept we are going to struggle to win any games in the next 2-3 weeks. Any points we get between now and then I’m taking as a bonus.

At this point I would just play the u21s ahead of Walker, Gundogan, Lewis and a few others as at least they will have some energy and let’s be honest they can’t be any worse.

This season is now about digging in and surviving somehow. We will probably be somewhere around 8th come January, but it’s totally doable to come back from there and still get top 4.

Dunno about u21’s, just looked at their 5-0 thrashing by Lincoln.

 

[Gordyola]

When can he start?

Do you think he would play the shadow of himself like Pep persists

 

[simon23]

Literally predicted the second goal in the pre match thread.....

Said it all before...Everyone knows walker is a problem. but our defensive shield of Lewis and Gundo s doing literally nothing.....neither can run back .......people making excuses for Lewis and focusing on one player in walker are missing the bigger picture..and Lewis and Gundo are that

And the real elephant in the room is KDB- we are actually carrying a player as he doesnt run anywhere near as much as required...

People will now hate this even more....If the rags get their set up right...they will have a field day

Back 3

5 min the middle with pace outwide and a couple of holding midfielder - pace upfront....

Or a simple 4-2-3-1 with two defensive sitting midfielders.

Sit and wait .....just as Juve did.....and then on the break down with our midfield pushed way too high and Gundo out od position.....and watch what happens...rashford, Garnacho, Hoiland or Amad - all absolutely rapid will run in behind and have a field day

use Mainoo and Ugarte and they will bully Gundo

Thierry Henry has just said it on commentary - he knew Juve would play this way....

we wont win the CL let alone qualify for the next round

We need to focus on the PL and finishing top 4 and that is now looking unlikely

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

None of that should matter, if Pep would cut his cloth, according to what we’ve got available. Continuing to play that high line, with no pressing and slow ball is just suicidal.
Can’t we ever just sit deep, in a low block and attempt to play on the counter?

I agree, we need to be far more compact as a team. The way we defend when we turn over possession is becoming a joke.

 

[malg]

Well. Not sure how we'll get out of this rut. Gundogan is pump, Lewis just doesn't have the quality, Walker is our Captain, our wingers don't know how to cross a ball. We play such a high line that it's difficult to think of a team who would struggle to make chances against us.

We better fucking beat those cunts at the weekend.

 

[wolviedinho]

There’s been no one to bring in which has been a double whammy problem. Those out there like Gundogan and Lewis are being overplayed because of it and it’s making things even worse.

Losing games anyway. Rather have bit of fight going down.

 

[supercity88]

So they attacked and defended better, that's a corker that is. Yeah we were fine apart from the defending and attacking bit.

Ignore their two goals and the fact we didn't score and it was a great night's work.

 

[Zinchilla]

Every team we play waits. They don’t give us the space in the final third & then wait to use their speed when they can exploit our weaknesses.

Every team we play has pace. We have none, or the players that do like Haaland, are given no space to run into.

Does Pep see Lewis as Philip Lahm 2.0? I don’t get it.

Feels like we just rock up to every match without analysing what the opposition will do.

Anyway, we know our squad is small, missing players of the quality and bedrock of the last few seasons - stones, Foden, ake, Akanji, rodri, coupled with the ageing drop off of Walker, Gundo, Kev and Bernardo. That’s a huge hole. But I suppose this is the price we pay for winning 4 on the trot.

And being honest, if offered this situation after winning 4, I would have taken it in a heart beat. Nobody has done it before, and I’d be surprised if any team does so again in the next few decades, and I’ve got to remember that. A new, different cycle will begin.

Not blaming anyone at the moment. Buying 4 or 5 top class players to take over from some of the above last season or this was never going to happen. Top class players don’t sign to sit on the bench and wait their turn. Another reason no team has ever won 4.

Things don’t taste good right now, but we’ve had so much honey over the years and that taste will come back.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

No mate
We're at least five players short of being contenders again and that's just for the first eleven

Ok mate.

 

[half & half derby scarf]

Bland, toothless and so, so predictable to the point of being sleep inducing. Body language awful as well. Serious problems all round but I'm looking forward to the total rebuild because that's what's needed.

 

[Mr. Shush]

Walker, Ederson, Bernardo, KDB, Gundogan, and Stones need to be moved on. Gundo will likely start coaching with us. Stones didn't play for us today but he is injury prone. We just need to move on from this team

 

[Gone for a Burton]

Things are not going to be getting any better until we can get replacements in January, if they do indeed come then. I expect we just have to accept we are going to struggle to win any games in the next 2-3 weeks. Any points we get between now and then I’m taking as a bonus.

At this point I would just play the u21s ahead of Walker, Gundogan, Lewis and a few others as at least they will have some energy and let’s be honest they can’t be any worse.

This season is now about digging in and surviving somehow. We will probably be somewhere around 8th come January, but it’s totally doable to come back from there and still get top 4.

We need a variation in Peps tactics and substitutions too...theyve gone stale and predictable.

 

[5 Hit Gibbon]

Overall not a great performance. Walker really poor for both goals I though.

Worried for the weekend as quite a few of our players don't look arsed at the moment.

 

[Semper aggressus]

Expected really, the way we’ve been playing. Form has fallen off a cliff, winning mentality has gone and in many ways the style of football we were so successful at has been superseded by pace and power. Until we sign better players that have these attributes we’ll continue to struggle.