Kalidou Koulibaly

ctid1894 said:
Getting caught in possession isn't a defensive error in my opinion. That's shit attacking (build-up) play caused specifically by having a right footed player at LCB. His options were limited by his inability to use his left foot, forcing him to play inside, only Norwich had closed off those options. A left footed player in that situation plays safely out to the left back.
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There was a simple ball back to Ederson on though.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
There was a simple ball back to Ederson on though.
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The ball from Stones comes to Otamendi's left foot, if he was left footed, the ball back to Ederson is very simple. The fact he's naturally right footed forces him to take a touch back on to his right foot, as he's clearly not confident playing that ball back to Ederson under pressure left footed.

It's exactly why I have advocated signing Ake as a Laporte backup before Koulibaly, as that situation even if unpunished happens a dozen times a game. Someone posted a video a while back showing multiple occurances of our problems playing out to that left hand side when Laporte is missing, I wish I had saved a copy. Can't be arsed finding it but whoever posted it might remember and be able to re-post it.
 
ctid1894 said:
You keep saying defensive errors, name them.

In the 9 games we've lost there was 1 defensive error at Wolves away for their third goal, another two goalkeeping errors from Ederson at Salford. Meanwhile 10 of the goals we conceded came from slow build-up play leading to us getting caught in possession, leaving the defence completely exposed and helpless.

So you can either focus on the tiniest problem of defensive errors or you can focus on improving the build-up play to prevent the attacking errors which have lead directly to most goals we've conceded.

The comment about winning 4 trophies wasn't directed at you, it was completely unrelated to you.
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To be honest most opposition goals stem from an error somewhere, I don't specifically remember individual ones, all I know is that we've leaked too many goals with our current defence this season so it needs improving and I believe Koulibaly is the man to do that.
 
Some very interesting discussion here.

I see it as this. A CB needs to have 4 things to work well at City. They need be reliable at the basics. They need to be able to pass with some composure. They need to be good at being aggressive and pushing forwards defensively, and they need be to pacy (or sharp) enough to deal with long ball in behind them.

Believe it or not the best example of that this season for me was Otamendi at home to Tottenham. It played an important part in keeping Tottenham trapped in their own half for most of the game.

Going forwards I think the issue is more mental than technical. That in itself can have a knock on effect on things.
 
Semper aggressus said:
To be honest most opposition goals stem from an error somewhere, I don't specifically remember individual ones, all I know is that we've leaked too many goals with our current defence this season so it needs improving and I believe Koulibaly is the man to do that.
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There's 2-3 minute highlights of every game we play, you don't have to remember individual mistakes. If it happens as frequently as you're insinuating then just pick a couple of games.

I agree that most opposition goals stem from mistakes by the way, however there's so many variables. It could be; individual, group, team, tactical, attacking, transitional, defensive or a combination. However it could also be one of those and/or risk acceptance (e.g. we accept the risk of Ederson getting chipped from 40 yards because the benefits outweight the negatives). My none City mates will scream till they're blue in the face Ederson was at fault for being so far out of his goal though because they judge it as a one off.
 
ctid1894 said:
The ball from Stones comes to Otamendi's left foot, if he was left footed, the ball back to Ederson is very simple. The fact he's naturally right footed forces him to take a touch back on to his right foot, as he's clearly not confident playing that ball back to Ederson under pressure left footed.

It's exactly why I have advocated signing Ake as a Laporte backup before Koulibaly, as that situation even if unpunished happens a dozen times a game. Someone posted a video a while back showing multiple occurances of our problems playing out to that left hand side when Laporte is missing, I wish I had saved a copy. Can't be arsed finding it but whoever posted it might remember and be able to re-post it.
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Do you know why we we're in for Maguire then?
 
_a_o_ said:
Koulibaly and Ben White to supplement Laporte/replace Stones and/or Garcia would go a long way to revamping the defence, and establishing a solid platform for the pending rebuild.

Koulibaly is going to surprise people with exactly how good he is, but he’s also gonna be away for AFCON, so another central defender is going to be necessary, and White ticks all the boxes as a young ball-playing defender who’s also homegrown, and will inevitably break into the England team over the next 12 months.
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Still somewhat baffles me that AFCON was moved due to the rainy season in summer. Just a little rain. My father worked there for years as an expatriate (host nation is Cameroon). It’s not bad enough to move the whole tournament. Nonetheless, a backup CB is a must. Whether the backups include Stones/Garcia/THB...only time will tell.
 
Josh_D said:
Still somewhat baffles me that AFCON was moved due to the rainy season in summer. Just a little rain. My father worked there for years as an expatriate (host nation is Cameroon). It’s not bad enough to move the whole tournament. Nonetheless, a backup CB is a must. Whether the backups include Stones/Garcia/THB...only time will tell.
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Harwood-Bellis needs a loan to iron out those inevitable mistakes and become comfortable expressing himself with his distribution in the senior game - he’s physically ready for it, unlike some of the other default dwarfs in the academy. He’ll be ready by his early 20s, if the right developmental pathway is created for him. It’d be a waste to have him stuck in the u23s with the odd league cup appearance.

If Kompany stays at Anderlect, a year there would do him good learning from VK in a decent enough league for an 18 year old, providing he’s assured of 20+ games.

Regarding White, he’s got everything to slot straight into our style of play, having worked under Bielsa; he could be intergrated slowly in the lead up to AFCON. There aren’t too many English players who’re stylistically compatible with our football philosophy, so when they do come available, we have to take calculated risks on them.
 
Well if they are direct quotes from him then that doesnt sound like he is looking to leave at all

I guess it comes down to whether Napoli need to sell him I guess
 
He's now saying his family is happy were they are and that makes him happy and he's waiting to see if the president offers him contact to end his career there, don't sound like a bloke who wants a move or he's blagging lol
 
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