Me either with Garcia saying he wants to leave but if it's the choice between Koulibaly at £60-70m or nothing, I'd take nothing and wait for someone else to come along who does represent better value for money.
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Kalidou Koulibaly
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blueyorkie
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You can call him Ronaldo, just not like a teeney bopper.
Surely Fake Ronaldo?
Neville Kneville
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Me either with Garcia saying he wants to leave but if it's the choice between Koulibaly at £60-70m or nothing, I'd take nothing and wait for someone else to come along who does represent better value for money.
I'd be even more worried if Garcia stayed tbh.
I think that money is the going rate for a player like Koulibaly.
If we didn't get him I'd pay a lot, for the 2nd choice because the only current cb I'm truly optimistic about for next season is Aké.
The others are all currently below par & in rehab imo.
sir baconface
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Two points in resonse.To shift the perspective just a little bit I'd like to remind
that our "mess" of a defence just conceded 2 more goals
compared to the world's best defence of the PL w*nner over 38 matches and less than any.other.PL team.
Look at when we conceded soft goals and how many points that cost us compared to dippers.
Look at how many of the dippers‘ goals against were conceded once they were on the beach.
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itisrising
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Watford and Atletico Madrid were reminders that weren't that good either.
No defence is perfect but there a ways better than us right now.
I think Ake is a better player than Koulibaly, we only paid £40m for him. A similar right footed CB would do me just fine, if not then we go with Stones, Adaradiayo and Harwood-Bellis.I'd be even more worried if Garcia stayed tbh.
I think that money is the going rate for a player like Koulibaly.
If we didn't get him I'd pay a lot, for the 2nd choice because the only current cb I'm truly optimistic about for next season is Aké.
The others are all currently below par & in rehab imo.
No defence is perfect but there a ways better than us right now.
I agree that they are more functioning
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itisrising
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I think Ake is a better player than Koulibaly, we only paid £40m for him. A similar right footed CB would do me just fine, if not then we go with Stones, Adaradiayo and Harwood-Bellis.
The Stones experiment is over. He isn't good enough, we've not had a consistent season out of him. Ake is brilliant imo but hasn't proven it. Koulibaly has. He's a leader for club and country, we're paying for everything he brings in terms of experience and leadership.
Neville Kneville
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I think Ake is a better player than Koulibaly, we only paid £40m for him. A similar right footed CB would do me just fine, if not then we go with Stones, Adaradiayo and Harwood-Bellis.
I don't see the other similar option personally though & would have thought we'd be all over it if it existed.
If Stones is staying, I'm happy to try & reboot him bit don't trust him at all & imo the current version of Laporte is left footed Stones. Both need to start again from scratch & prove themselves imo.
With no real pre season, we have no opportunity to trial Tosin or THB.
Ake plus one, is a good crutch for both Stones & Laporte imo.
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Whatever we do that cannot be an option. If not Koulibaly it has to be somebody, with one of the other 3 as a back up.if not then we go with Stones, Adaradiayo and Harwood-Bellis.
I'd love to agree but unless we get someone else in then the Stones experiment will continue whether we like it or not. If we don't match the price Napoli have out on Koulibaly and we don't have an alternative, then what would you suggest?The Stones experiment is over. He isn't good enough, we've not had a consistent season out of him. Ake is brilliant imo but hasn't proven it. Koulibaly has. He's a leader for club and country, we're paying for everything he brings in terms of experience and leadership.
To be fair no one mentioned Ake until very recently, players are there but we're not scouts, so we can't be expected to know them. If there's not currently a viable alternative, then we wait until there is, in football nothing takes long, someone will stand out eventually.I don't see the other similar option personally though & would have thought we'd be all over it if it existed.
If Stones is staying, I'm happy to try & reboot him bit don't trust him at all & imo the current version of Laporte is left footed Stones. Both need to start again from scratch & prove themselves imo.
With no real pre season, we have no opportunity to trial Tosin or THB.
Ake plus one, is a good crutch for both Stones & Laporte imo.
Hopefully so, however there doesn't seem to be any suitable alternatives according to most posters, so what choice do we have.Whatever we do that cannot be an option. If not Koulibaly it has to be somebody, with one of the other 3 as a back up.
itisrising
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I'd love to agree but unless we get someone else in then the Stones experiment will continue whether we like it or not. If we don't match the price Napoli have out on Koulibaly and we don't have an alternative, then what would you suggest?
An alternative is absolutely necessary. There is no way we can rely on Stones who's behind Garcia in the pecking order and a CDM that will turn 36 in the upcoming season. We'll pay whatever we have to to get Koulibaly, our seasons applications rest on getting a reliable right sided CB.
Neville Kneville
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To be fair no one mentioned Ake until very recently, players are there but we're not scouts, so we can't be expected to know them. If there's not currently a viable alternative, then we wait until there is, in football nothing takes long, someone will stand out eventually.
I think that moment arrived two seasons ago.
Behave, no they don't, pure amateur dramatics.An alternative is absolutely necessary. There is no way we can rely on Stones who's behind Garcia in the pecking order and a CDM that will turn 36 in the upcoming season. We'll pay whatever we have to to get Koulibaly, our seasons applications rest on getting a reliable right sided CB.
That maybe so. However it's too late to do anything about it now.I think that moment arrived two seasons ago.
Didn't we just finish second?We will do well to finish third if we fail to sign another centre back. It’s a necessity.