Kalvin Phillips

Sunset said:
it really is absurd how much pep has refused to play him.. honestly feels very harsh. crazy how low of an opinion he has on him. his positioning must be horrendous or something.
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Generally, for City, it is. He's playing hide and seek when a central defender has the ball. It's as if he's frightened of receiving the ball and making a mistake..... so makes sure he doesn't.
 
eastlandsblue said:
Or trust. Pep is fast becoming a manager who lacks trust in our backup players. Hence KDB playing the last two months with a hamstring problem. Hopefully Foden has given him a little more faith in having trust in them
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I'm sure if KDB said he's 100% fit, Pep would take him at his word and play him unless the physios over-ruled him. Most player's want to play. I don't think it's a lack of trust thing generally (and I did say "most" although there have been exceptions for us). Nigel Clough/That bald twat from Leeds Utd.
 
Lavinda Past said:
Mangala showed how poor he was on a very regular basis at City. Negative fan reaction was understandable and, in my opinion, usually well deserved. He simply isn't/wasn't a good footballer.

Bravo had a horrendous start at City and looked like he couldn't save anything on target. Again, negative fan reaction was understandable, but (again imo) perhaps unfair. Pep threw him in and let him struggle... Seemingly, just to show Joe Hart that he was out of the picture. This was the poorest piece of management I'd seen from Pep in his time at City.
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I don't think Pep was trying to show Joe Hart anything by continuing to play Bravo.

Hart had left on loan for a while by the time Bravo was obviously struggling. Caballero was the only alternative who he turned to in the end.
Bravo was bought for his distribution and teaching a defence how to play with a goalkeeper who could play out.
It was unfortunate that he lost it a bit with his shot stopping but I don't think there was much poor management involved.
 
Trickyblues said:
He gets hated for simply smiling. Constantly called a cheerleader. Constantly being told to “get out my club, to fuck off, get rid”. Constantly being called fat. That is hate and has gone way too far imo.
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He's not "constantly" called fat - that went away when he sorted himself out, I've never heard him "constantly" or even ever called a cheerleader. The "get rid" etc is an opinion mooted by some fans. Hate is not the word I would use.
I would, however, say that in the face of his City performances, a trade-in or trade-up would be appropriate for the club (and the player). Hate does not come into it imho.
 
Odd socks said:
Just been reading Rodri 21/22 thread, starting at the beginning it was an interesting read on how we perceive Pep's thoughts on a player in our opinion.
One comment that raised a smile was " second worse player to Mendy" and some "get rid now" thrown in for good measure.
Think it turned out well in the end for him.
I haven't got an opinion on Phillips making it here or not because he hasn't had a decent run in the team and I really don't watch matches where city are not involved.
Judging him against the Rodri we are seeing now is not possible so far but city don't get it so wrong often and I hope there's a decent player in him, only time will tell.
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I get where you're coming from, but Pep clearly trusted Rodri from day one, and gave him the minutes and experience needed to improve his game. We're just not seeing any signs of that with Phillips
 
abu13 said:
Where i feel Pep lets himself down is by keeping Rodri on the pitch for the full 90 minutes when we are 3 up, There is a perfect opportunity to give Phillips some game time and feel part of the team.
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I was shocked that he never started the FA Cup semi against Sheff Utd, if Pep didn't trust him in that game his chances with us were done imo.

It wouldn't really surprise me if he started tomorrow, especially after Rodri's comments, but if he doesn't he might as well leave if he wants to play this season.
 
Legal Alien said:
I was shocked that he never started the FA Cup semi against Sheff Utd, if Pep didn't trust him in that game his chances with us were done imo.

It wouldn't really surprise me if he started tomorrow, especially after Rodri's comments, but if he doesn't he might as well leave if he wants to play this season.
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Community shield never got on was a surprise and being 3-0 up at Burnley not coming on knowing the schedule we had the following week tells you everything
 
FromPollockToSilva said:
I get where you're coming from, but Pep clearly trusted Rodri from day one, and gave him the minutes and experience needed to improve his game. We're just not seeing any signs of that with Phillips
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I agree with you, signs are not there with Kalvin who hasn't been tested properly for whatever reason - not helped with the weight comment which seemed to start the pile on.
I'm not going to fly the flag for him but I find the harshness of criticism rather mean.
 
Roachy said:
Some good points no doubt. Could you elaborate on the "left high and dry by Pep" bit?
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They seem to think Pep has influenced the fans perception of Phillips. I don't agree with the view expressed that fans have been gaslit to hate the lad. Most fans think he is a nice chap but perhaps not up to the task. His run in with Pep after the World Cup may have finished his season but we are under no obligation to give him game time if he is struggling badly. Maybe the club expected him to fit in easily and quickly like Kovatic, and to be available for selection/substitution immediately, not after serving an apprenticeship.
A few Leeds fans I have spoken to were not at all upset to see him leave. the general view was that he is over rated on the basis of one good tournament. That would be my view as well. I don't see him breaking into the team even if Rodri picks up a bad injury. He is by all accounts a decent lad and I hope he does well elsewhere.
 
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