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[Prestwich_Blue]

Thaksin regime almost forced Man City boss Hughes to quit

Mark Hughes has revealed that he came "close" to walking away from Manchester City in the summer of 2008, at the tail end of the club's ownership by Thaksin Shinawatra, the former Thai prime minister, reports The Guardian.

"The reality wasn't exactly what was described and sold to me," he said. "In fairness, we were able to go into the transfer market, but there seemed a focus that players had to be sold, and I realised that maybe the resources weren't in place that I thought."

He described the facilities at City's Carrington training ground as "rundown" and "not fit for purpose". There was, he said, "confusion and miscommunication" about players who might be sold, with Stephen Ireland told he would be leaving when Hughes had not approved any decision to sell him.

Thaksin was eventually convicted of fraud in Bangkok and sentenced to three years in prison.

Hughes said that at the time he tried to concentrate solely on managing the football club, hoping his job would not be affected by Thaksin's problems.

"Probably naively, I thought you could separate the two, but obviously you can't. If you are single-minded, you have to work purposefully," he said, "and if you get to a point where it is untenable and not manageable, then you make the decision to walk away. I never got to that point but I was close."
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Hope this help you calm down!

What exactly is the relevance of this? Are you trying to remind us what a mess we were in because I know far more than Tribal Football what a mess we were in. Of course every City fan, me included, would rather be where we are now than where we were then. But in my opinion our owners have shown possibly even less class than Thaksin in their handling of the manager.

Thaksin made it clear that Sven was for the chop whereas Hughes was being publicly supported just a month ago.

 

[halpo123]

Thaksin regime almost forced Man City boss Hughes to quit

Mark Hughes has revealed that he came "close" to walking away from Manchester City in the summer of 2008, at the tail end of the club's ownership by Thaksin Shinawatra, the former Thai prime minister, reports The Guardian.

"The reality wasn't exactly what was described and sold to me," he said. "In fairness, we were able to go into the transfer market, but there seemed a focus that players had to be sold, and I realised that maybe the resources weren't in place that I thought."

He described the facilities at City's Carrington training ground as "rundown" and "not fit for purpose". There was, he said, "confusion and miscommunication" about players who might be sold, with Stephen Ireland told he would be leaving when Hughes had not approved any decision to sell him.

Thaksin was eventually convicted of fraud in Bangkok and sentenced to three years in prison.

Hughes said that at the time he tried to concentrate solely on managing the football club, hoping his job would not be affected by Thaksin's problems.

"Probably naively, I thought you could separate the two, but obviously you can't. If you are single-minded, you have to work purposefully," he said, "and if you get to a point where it is untenable and not manageable, then you make the decision to walk away. I never got to that point but I was close."
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Hope this help you calm down!

What exactly is the relevance of this? Are you trying to remind us what a mess we were in because I know far more than Tribal Football what a mess we were in. Of course every City fan, me included, would rather be where we are now than where we were then. But in my opinion our owners have shown possibly even less class than Thaksin in their handling of the manager.

Thaksin made it clear that Sven was for the chop whereas Hughes was being publicly supported just a month ago.

oh for gods sake

 

[halpo123]

Thaksin regime almost forced Man City boss Hughes to quit

Mark Hughes has revealed that he came "close" to walking away from Manchester City in the summer of 2008, at the tail end of the club's ownership by Thaksin Shinawatra, the former Thai prime minister, reports The Guardian.

"The reality wasn't exactly what was described and sold to me," he said. "In fairness, we were able to go into the transfer market, but there seemed a focus that players had to be sold, and I realised that maybe the resources weren't in place that I thought."

He described the facilities at City's Carrington training ground as "rundown" and "not fit for purpose". There was, he said, "confusion and miscommunication" about players who might be sold, with Stephen Ireland told he would be leaving when Hughes had not approved any decision to sell him.

Thaksin was eventually convicted of fraud in Bangkok and sentenced to three years in prison.

Hughes said that at the time he tried to concentrate solely on managing the football club, hoping his job would not be affected by Thaksin's problems.

"Probably naively, I thought you could separate the two, but obviously you can't. If you are single-minded, you have to work purposefully," he said, "and if you get to a point where it is untenable and not manageable, then you make the decision to walk away. I never got to that point but I was close."
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Hope this help you calm down!

What exactly is the relevance of this? Are you trying to remind us what a mess we were in because I know far more than Tribal Football what a mess we were in. Of course every City fan, me included, would rather be where we are now than where we were then. But in my opinion our owners have shown possibly even less class than Thaksin in their handling of the manager.

Thaksin made it clear that Sven was for the chop whereas Hughes was being publicly supported just a month ago.

your a disgrace maybe your drunk but even so ,to compare Thaksin favourible to ADUG well thats bad form man
Thaskin left sven dangling for weeks if not months and you fuckin know it .Knobhead

 

[selim]

Thaksin regime almost forced Man City boss Hughes to quit

Mark Hughes has revealed that he came "close" to walking away from Manchester City in the summer of 2008, at the tail end of the club's ownership by Thaksin Shinawatra, the former Thai prime minister, reports The Guardian.

"The reality wasn't exactly what was described and sold to me," he said. "In fairness, we were able to go into the transfer market, but there seemed a focus that players had to be sold, and I realised that maybe the resources weren't in place that I thought."

He described the facilities at City's Carrington training ground as "rundown" and "not fit for purpose". There was, he said, "confusion and miscommunication" about players who might be sold, with Stephen Ireland told he would be leaving when Hughes had not approved any decision to sell him.

Thaksin was eventually convicted of fraud in Bangkok and sentenced to three years in prison.

Hughes said that at the time he tried to concentrate solely on managing the football club, hoping his job would not be affected by Thaksin's problems.

"Probably naively, I thought you could separate the two, but obviously you can't. If you are single-minded, you have to work purposefully," he said, "and if you get to a point where it is untenable and not manageable, then you make the decision to walk away. I never got to that point but I was close."
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Hope this help you calm down!

What exactly is the relevance of this? Are you trying to remind us what a mess we were in because I know far more than Tribal Football what a mess we were in. Of course every City fan, me included, would rather be where we are now than where we were then. But in my opinion our owners have shown possibly even less class than Thaksin in their handling of the manager.

Thaksin made it clear that Sven was for the chop whereas Hughes was being publicly supported just a month ago.

I am trying to remind you it is BUSINESS at the end of the day. He was ready to go when things were not going as planned so what is wrong with Khaldoon making his decision in the same professional way?

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

What exactly is the relevance of this? Are you trying to remind us what a mess we were in because I know far more than Tribal Football what a mess we were in. Of course every City fan, me included, would rather be where we are now than where we were then. But in my opinion our owners have shown possibly even less class than Thaksin in their handling of the manager.

Thaksin made it clear that Sven was for the chop whereas Hughes was being publicly supported just a month ago.

your a disgrace maybe your drunk but even so ,to compare Thaksin favourible to ADUG well thats bad form man
Thaskin left sven dangling for weeks if not months and you fuckin know it .Knobhead

Less of the personal abuse please. I'm expressing an opinion that you are free to agree or disagree with. But didn't our owners leave Hughes dangling? They'd been talking to Mancini for weeks. At least Thaksin didn't say one thing to Sven's face and another behind his back.

But if you've ever read anything I've written you would know I'm quite clear there is no comparison between Thaksin and ADUG. That's probably why I'm so shocked at the way they have gone about things.

 

[bizzbo]

But in my opinion our owners have shown possibly even less class than Thaksin in their handling of the manager.

Thaksin made it clear that Sven was for the chop whereas Hughes was being publicly supported just a month ago.

I have to laugh if you have resorted to saying that Thaksin's handling of Sven was more humane, especially as you appear to imply this was by design.

thaksin was incompetent. you never leave a dead man in charge, or you end up losing 8-1 at middlesborough and no-one could give a hoot. you also end up with all sorts of vicious slurs being printed against your name.

thaksin also did more or less dodge the question when asked about it. I think even in April he still said sven was 'a very good manager'

he left sven hanging for 4 months, having made up his mind after 6 months, three/four of which were astonishingly good.

I'm pretty sure that when Hughes was told he would have a job this year, it was mooted in several stories, and on here as well, that he had been told he had to hit the ground running. This obviously implies that he was never completely secure in his job this year.

I thought that was an obvious way to handle someone who's first year of results was a long way from being an unqualified success, someone who had only just achieved his stated target despite having tremendous backing.

As you viewed him differently, I guess it came as a big surprise to you when you found out his tenure was never entirely secure.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

What exactly is the relevance of this? Are you trying to remind us what a mess we were in because I know far more than Tribal Football what a mess we were in. Of course every City fan, me included, would rather be where we are now than where we were then. But in my opinion our owners have shown possibly even less class than Thaksin in their handling of the manager.

Thaksin made it clear that Sven was for the chop whereas Hughes was being publicly supported just a month ago.

I am trying to remind you it is BUSINESS at the end of the day. He was ready to go when things were not going as planned so what is wrong with Khaldoon making his decision in the same professional way?

Hughes felt that he couldn't do his job properly under those circumstances. Somewhat different to being given a target, meeting it and still getting sacked.

Let's suppose you start a new job where you have been promised responsibility for recruitment. Yet when you start the job you find that your boss tells you who to hire and fire. Would you be happy?

Now suppose you start a job where you are given a target for recruitment. One or two deals go a bit wrong but you are generally on target. Then you're sacked because your boss says you weren't going to meet those targets even though your not even half-way through the financial year.

Both of them have lied to you. What's the difference?

 

[PragueBlue]

So would it have been OK to sack him at the end of last season, having failed to meet his target of European football?

 

[halpo123]

I am trying to remind you it is BUSINESS at the end of the day. He was ready to go when things were not going as planned so what is wrong with Khaldoon making his decision in the same professional way?

Hughes felt that he couldn't do his job properly under those circumstances. Somewhat different to being given a target, meeting it and still getting sacked.

Let's suppose you start a new job where you have been promised responsibility for recruitment. Yet when you start the job you find that your boss tells you who to hire and fire. Would you be happy?

Now suppose you start a job where you are given a target for recruitment. One or two deals go a bit wrong but you are generally on target. Then you're sacked because your boss says you weren't going to meet those targets even though your not even half-way through the financial year.

Both of them have lied to you. What's the difference?

sorry for calling you a knobhead but back to the point in hand Sven knew maybe a month before he was going .Hughes who i like by the way found out the day he got sacked so it was sharp and swift in my book .Every manager has the axe hovering over him My original point to you was that although i agreed with your stance as a hughes inner i just think that badmouthing ADUG is pretty poor form
and coparing them to Thaksin is pretty unforgivable

 

[bizzbo]

Now suppose you start a job where you are given a target for recruitment. One or two deals go a bit wrong but you are generally on target. Then you're sacked because your boss says you weren't going to meet those targets even though your not even half-way through the financial year.

Both of them have lied to you. What's the difference?

if I got a great start in my first month, then three bad months...if I was only just on target.... and my admin (read: defence) was in a mess.... well, you know. target schmarget.