La Liga official complaint about City

[Saddleworth2]

It must be an exciting election when a limited few have only one candidate they can vote for who has been named as successor.

Yeah I get that mate. My point was he doesn’t have absolute power within the UAE does he?

 

[Saddleworth2]

Your first question has already been answered.

As to your second I suspect much of it is jealousy.

So the hateful eight, La Liga, the entire media and fans of other clubs dislike our owners because they are jealous.
Really? It’s about as convincing an argument than they are all inherently racist.

I don’t gave an answer either. Maybe it’s a combination of a bunch of factors.

 

[The perfect fumble]

So the hateful eight, La Liga, the entire media and fans of other clubs dislike our owners because they are jealous.
Really? It’s about as convincing an argument than they are all inherently racist.

I don’t gave an answer either. Maybe it’s a combination of a bunch of factors.

This made me smile

Your question was too broad, made broader still with your use of the word "unpopular", it led me to assume you meant supporters of other clubs.

More fool me.

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

I don't know how you live with yourself....

How poverty wages for tea pickers fuel India's trade in child slavery​

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/20/poverty-tea-pickers-india-child-slavery

I'm just going to put the kettle on.

And he drinks from a cup made out of Chinese bones!
Not surprising, for a supporter of a club that is propped up by a “genocidal regime” ( direct quote off Leeds United's main forum which gave me a good chuckle this morning).

 

[halfcenturyup]

Of course the Sheikh can own any number of things in a personal capacity, but the origin of his wealth and therefore everything he owns, together with the political status he enjoys, is entirely down to his membership of the royal family, the most powerful family in a federation of absolute monarchies.

Sorry ..... Nerd alert!

I have been thinking about inherited wealth within royal families. An absolute monarch dies, leaves some wealth with his offspring and the rest in the state treasury. When does the wealth inherited by the children become personal wealth and when is it perceived as state wealth?

I imagine the easy answer is at the moment of inheritance. In which case, the origin of Mansour's wealth isn't a legal issue, although it may be a moral issue to some.

Presumably the answer can't be that it remains state wealth in perpetuity, otherwise the @Prestwich_Blue argument about the Queen's horses wouldn't be invalid. After all, does anyone deny the Queen's wealth comes from state assets, however far back.

Or is it somewhere in between? One generation? Two? Ten? Legalised by a later conversion to constitutional monarchy or Republic?

Does the type of monarch enter into it? Benevolent monarch increasing state wealth good. Tyrannical monarch depleting state wealth bad?

Does it depend on something else?

Genuinely interested in the thoughts of the forum's thinkers, because I am struggling to make a case for Mansour's wealth not being personal in the case of Abu Dhabi.

 

[The perfect fumble]

And he drinks from a cup made out of Chinese bones!
Not surprising, for a supporter of a club that is propped up by a “genocidal regime” ( direct quote off Leeds United's main forum which gave me a good chuckle this morning).

Let's all welcome Juanma Lillo's replacement....

 

[halfcenturyup]

Yeah I get that mate. My point was he doesn’t have absolute power within the UAE does he?

I think you are confusing the role of the President of the UAE, which is a federation of absolute monarchies, with that of the Emir of Abu Dhabi, who rules as one of those absolute monarchs.

 

[TedofChume]

I wish the BBC would check their facts, you know use something like BBC FACT-CHECKED?

Man City and Paris St-Germain putting European football in danger, says La Liga boss

La Liga president Javier Tebas says European football is "in danger" unless clubs such as Manchester City and Paris St-Germain can be controlled.

www.bbc.co.uk

Tebas added: "At one point, Man City had 68% of their revenue from commercial income. Real Madrid was 54%. That is impossible. Man City as a brand is not worth that much."


Impossible? yes because it has never happened.


From Deloitte Football Money League % of revenue that is commercial and actual amounts:

2022 (report of 20/21 season)
48% €308m City
50% €321m Real Madrid

2021
52% €249m City
54% €382m Real Madrid

2020
43% €261m City
47% €354m Real Madrid

2019
47% €265m City
47% €356m Real Madrid

2018
44% €230m City
45% €301m Real Madrid

2017
46% €178m City
42% €263m Real Madrid

2016
49% €228m City
43% €247m Real Madrid

2015
48% €198m City
43% €231m Real Madrid

2014
53% €166m City
41% €211m Real Madrid

2013
49% €138m City
36% €187m Real Madrid

2012
38% € 64m City
36% €172m Real Madrid

2011
37% € 57m City
34% €150m Real Madrid

2010
21% € 21m City
34% €150m Real Madrid

2009
25% € 26m City
35% €129m Real Madrid

2008
City not in top 20

2007
36% € 31m City
43% €125m Real Madrid

2006
32% € 29m City
45% €124m Real Madrid

This is what I'm reduced to at 2.45pm on a Saturday afternoon in the closed season!

 

[halfcenturyup]

I wish the BBC would check their facts, you know use something like BBC FACT-CHECKED?

Man City and Paris St-Germain putting European football in danger, says La Liga boss

La Liga president Javier Tebas says European football is "in danger" unless clubs such as Manchester City and Paris St-Germain can be controlled.

www.bbc.co.uk

Tebas added: "At one point, Man City had 68% of their revenue from commercial income. Real Madrid was 54%. That is impossible. Man City as a brand is not worth that much."


Impossible? yes because it has never happened.


From Deloitte Football Money League % of revenue that is commercial and actual amounts:

2022 (report of 20/21 season)
48% €308m City
50% €321m Real Madrid

2021
52% €249m City
54% €382m Real Madrid

2020
43% €261m City
47% €354m Real Madrid

2019
47% €265m City
47% €356m Real Madrid

2018
44% €230m City
45% €301m Real Madrid

2017
46% €178m City
42% €263m Real Madrid

2016
49% €228m City
43% €247m Real Madrid

2015
48% €198m City
43% €231m Real Madrid

2014
53% €166m City
41% €211m Real Madrid

2013
49% €138m City
36% €187m Real Madrid

2012
38% € 64m City
36% €172m Real Madrid

2011
37% € 57m City
34% €150m Real Madrid

2010
21% € 21m City
34% €150m Real Madrid

2009
25% € 26m City
35% €129m Real Madrid

2008
City not in top 20

2007
36% € 31m City
43% €125m Real Madrid

2006
32% € 29m City
45% €124m Real Madrid

This is what I'm reduced to at 2.45pm on a Saturday afternoon in the closed season!

Good work. But he is using the inflated sponsorship numbers, not the ones recorded in the accounts. You know, the ones he pulled out of his arse.

 

[Saddleworth2]

This made me smile

Your question was too broad, made broader still with your use of the word "unpopular", it led me to assume you meant supporters of other clubs.

More fool me.

Not trying to be obtuse mate. I genuinely do not get the reaction to our club. When it comes to opposition fans, they swallow the bile excreted by our media. But why do the media take that position? Because of historical allegiance to red shirts? For clicks and giggles? Why have EUFA taken the position against u# historically that we had to clear our name Through CAS? Ever since the takeover there has been a direction of flow one way and it is relentless And pervades everything we do. Even the greatest coach the world has seen playing the most controlled artistic football has not really moved the dial much. Why?