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Labour / Tory Party meltdown Referendum fallout
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malg
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Ooohhhh........you bad man!The chilcot reports comes out soon doesn't it?
Labour need a blairite in charge sharpish to protect their murderer-in-chief.
Gelsons Dad
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There is a theme here!Probably the brass that has Osbourne gaffa taped to a chair.
I love the way some on here are blind to the mess the Tory party are also in,
the knives are already out for Boris and revenge is on the cards, I'm expecting some juicy headlines regarding him and shady dealings over the next few days and weeks,
Boris got sacked from the Times for lying, and Michael Howard sacked him for lying, looks like he has a bad habit, and no doubt made plenty of enemies along the way.
Winter is Coming
the knives are already out for Boris and revenge is on the cards, I'm expecting some juicy headlines regarding him and shady dealings over the next few days and weeks,
Boris got sacked from the Times for lying, and Michael Howard sacked him for lying, looks like he has a bad habit, and no doubt made plenty of enemies along the way.
Winter is Coming
greasedupdeafguy
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Jacob Rees Mogg for Tory leader!
I love the way some on here are blind to the mess the Tory party are also in,
the knives are already out for Boris and revenge is on the cards, I'm expecting some juicy headlines regarding him and shady dealings over the next few days and weeks,
Boris got sacked from the Times for lying, and Michael Howard sacked him for lying, looks like he has a bad habit, and no doubt made plenty of enemies along the way.
Winter is Coming
Good point you make about Boris, he's got a lot of Skeletons. Personally think May will be the peace maker.
gordondaviesmoustache
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May is dangerously right wing imo.Good point you make about Boris, he's got a lot of Skeletons. Personally think May will be the peace maker.
May is dangerously right wing imo.
I'm not endorsing her, I'm a murdering Blairite praying for David Miliband to mount a leadership challenge.
gordondaviesmoustache
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I know you weren't, mate. I think you've made your political outlook sufficiently clear for me not to confuse you for a Tory ;-)I'm not endorsing her, I'm a murdering Blairite praying for David Miliband to mount a leadership challenge.
I believe, for all his shortcomings, that Johnson would be a relatively liberal and socially inclusive PM.
Daz_Blue
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I know you weren't, mate. I think you've made your political outlook sufficiently clear for me not to confuse you for a Tory ;-)
But being a Blairite does mean being a Tory does it not ? :)
gordondaviesmoustache
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Perhaps not the best time to be too closely defining what constitutes 'a Tory' :-)But being a Blairite does mean being a Tory does it not ? :)
Wilf Wild 1937
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May is dangerously right wing imo.
Whoever gets the job now will be far to the right of Cameron and probably given the negotiations with the EU to come needs to be.
Its sad that the people who voted leave, expecting more money for the NHS, will be bitterly disappointed by what's to come. It won't be pleasant.
I know you weren't, mate. I think you've made your political outlook sufficiently clear for me not to confuse you for a Tory ;-)
I believe, for all his shortcomings, that Johnson would be a relatively liberal and socially inclusive PM.
Well you might be surprised, I have a lot of time for Cameron and would have rather voted Tory than Labour in it's current guise.
BlueAnorak
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Boris Johnson is just about the furthest left in the current cabinet - as can be seen if you look at his performance as London Mayor. But as a BR exiter He will be trusted by the right of the party.The current Tory leadership of Cameron and Osborne is very much to the left of the party. They're centre-right. The people who replace them will be hard right.
gordondaviesmoustache
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I too don't mind Cameron. I think he's head and shoulders above anyone else in the Tory party, but he's made a judgement call which has spectacularly failed, notwithstanding how completely unexpected it was. No matter how skilled a politician is, they are only ever one bad call from tarnishing their legacy, as he's done. The repercussions for this vote will echo for a generation and I fear that social cohesion will further fracture in the years ahead. This issue will be a running sore for the peoples of this nation for the foreseeable, which has been caused, or at the very least hugely accentuated, by this referendum.Well you might be surprised, I have a lot of time for Cameron and would have rather voted Tory than Labour in it's current guise.
The United Kingdom, or what remains of it, will be a nation ill at ease with itself for the next decade and beyond. Anyone who cannot see this, is hopelessly deluded.
whp.blue
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Boris is a spent force he has served his purpise and he will never be elected pm too many Tories will blame him for every woe that besets us. Loyalty is seen as a big part of getting on in the tory party and Boris will be remembered as the disloyal tory who broke up the uk and EuropeActually, Boris is just about the furthest left in the current cabinet - as can be seen if you look at his performance as London Mayor.
Best hope is a genuine one nation tory
May will be too severe if she ever gains power and she will find a prominant role for IDS to apease the outers
whp.blue
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Your going to hell for that onePerhaps if he gets the chop Corbyn could leave the Labour Party and join Sinn Fein, he'll be among friends and maybe get a safe seat in West Belfast, he's even got the obligatory beard, perfect for him.
Pmsl though
Wilf Wild 1937
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Actually, Boris is just about the furthest left in the current cabinet - as can be seen if you look at his performance as London Mayor.
Boris is a strange character. I honestly feel he secretly backed Remain and thought Remain would win but positioned himself with Leave to stand him in good stead with the Tory grassroots further down the road . I very much doubt he'll be the next PM since he's seen as the man who (unwittingly!) plunged the dagger. Somebody like May will be put up against him.