Landing on the moon

[buzzer1]

My beliefs are just theories/hypothesis etc and i put forward evidence to back up my case, i don't wanna keep reiterating my stance but surely thats all books present, and people have to take the authors word as gospel and run with it. Take the South African people, they had;nt even heard of god until the Missionaries and manipulaters got amongst the people, they only had books, but imo those books are wrong, but a billion people take them as gospel, literally, and now we have possibly the most god fearing nation on the planet.

But what piece(s) of evidence do you have for believing that the planet was seeding by aliens? Please list them.

No, with regards to science books you are not called to take an authors word as gospel and run with it. I just told you why that is not the case. You can do the experiments yourself or at the very least you can look at the data on which the science books are based.

As for Africa, well now you're talking about religion and scripture. They are irrelevant.

BTW, do you now accept that you do believe (many) positive claims?

I will checkout any claim for myself before i go with it.

The seeding bit, well i have posted a link many times and it's by Credo Mutwa, the Reptillian Agenda, a guy that you said you have checked out.<br /><br />-- Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:07 pm --<br /><br />

Thats what they say about Alex Jones, that he works for the Agenda. And i understand where you are coming from with the Magician bit, we only ever uncover truths when time has elapsed were we can do fuk all about it, 9/11 being a prime example, but i really do think that there is a dark regime at work.

-- Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:23 am --


Only know crabby people, not crab people as yet.

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My beliefs are just theories/hypothesis etc and i put forward evidence to back up my case, i don't wanna keep reiterating my stance but surely thats all books present, and people have to take the authors word as gospel and run with it. Take the South African people, they had;nt even heard of god until the Missionaries and manipulaters got amongst the people, they only had books, but imo those books are wrong, but a billion people take them as gospel, literally, and now we have possibly the most god fearing nation on the planet.

You take the science books as gospels if you don't understand them. As ElanJo keeps on saying, you can prove everything in a scientific journal/book as long as you know what you are doing. Be it physically or mathematically. You keep on saying that evidence that comes from books should be discarded and yet, all your theories are based on someone writing stuff on the internet, or making a "documentary" about it.

Just a simple DNA test proves we (modern humans) originated about 200 000 years ago in Africa! Not outer space but in Africa. No, we weren't seeded on the planet 200 000 years ago because there is evidence of evolution before that. Now tell me why would 10 000+ scientist lie about that?

The problem with "conspiracy" theories are that they neglect the scientific evidence or try to manipulate it for their purpose. There is absolutely no evidence that we were seeded by aliens, and yet there is more than dozen ways you can prove we just evolved on this planet. I don't see why you are claiming we were seeded. (are you claiming that??? )

See the post to Elan'. Mate, please do not tell me that a billion gazillion Scientists cannot be wrong, were any of these people around back then? i don't wanna sound like a twat, but maybe if you keep telling me that a 1000 scientists can't be wrong, then you are sounding to me, as i sound to you, do you see what i mean. May i say this, that if a 1000 people say one thing and just one person says something else, it doesnt mean that the 1000 are right now does it?

The truth should be the Authority, not authority being the truth.

 

[Damocles]

If 1001 people have investigated an issue thoroughly and drawn their own independent conclusion, with 1000 people all finding the same conclusion and the 1 differing, then yes, that makes the 1000 right and the 1 wrong.

 

[Skashion]

If 1001 people have investigated an issue thoroughly and drawn their own independent conclusion, with 1000 people all finding the same conclusion and the 1 differing, then yes, that makes the 1000 right and the 1 wrong.

Boltzmann?

 

[Damocles]

If 1001 people have investigated an issue thoroughly and drawn their own independent conclusion, with 1000 people all finding the same conclusion and the 1 differing, then yes, that makes the 1000 right and the 1 wrong.

Boltzmann?

Not familiar with the particular stuff that he went through. I imagine he has something to do with the Boltzmann constant?

 

[buzzer1]

Boltzmann?

Not familiar with the particular stuff that he went through. I imagine he has something to do with the Boltzmann constant?

Dammy, i disagree with the 1001 scenario, i agree that the majority holds sway lets say in a decision on weather the party is guilty or innocent for example, but i'm afraid that it does not make me believe that the 1000 are right and the one is wrong, especially were a theory is concerned, the truth is the truth mate imo.

 

[Skashion]

Boltzmann?

Not familiar with the particular stuff that he went through. I imagine he has something to do with the Boltzmann constant?

He was a proponent of the atomic model at a time when it was not widely accepted in the scientific community and it is rumoured one of the things that led him to commit suicide was that he was so unaccepted and frankly ridiculed by his peers. Sadly, he was proved correct shortly after his death. Tragic.

 

[Damocles]

Shame.

Anyway, so we have, what, maybe 100 people in history that we could think of as the 1 who was right against the 1000?

Now how many of the 1's can we think of that were wrong?

 

[1.618034]

Buzzer... I don't want to be impertinent but what Mathematics/Science qualifications do you have? It is extremely pertinent (relevant) btw.

Also why believe the 1 when you don't believe the 1000? Because it suits your agenda perhaps? If Scientists can't be trusted then why believe or even care what any of them say?

 

[buzzer1]

Buzzer... I don't want to be impertinent but what Mathematics/Science qualifications do you have? It is extremely pertinent (relevant) btw.

Also why believe the 1 when you don't believe the 1000? Because it suits your agenda perhaps? If Scientists can't be trusted then why believe or even care what any of them say?

Mate, it really is irrelevant as to my mathematics qualifications, as that is not dependent as to the outcome of a certain thing like the topic we are discussing, and its not a kop out of an answer as even Autistic humans have a fantastic ability that requires no qualifications, as you probably know. I do not dismiss everything the Scientists say, i promise you this much Digits, but my point i suppose is that i do not believe all that i read, i mean, were the Scientists there at the beginning of time? have any of them died and come back to life(nde)? i really am not being a little woman or even ignorant, i'm not mate, but i think there is more than meets the eye to lots of things, i try and get outside the box but not so much as it makes me Ignorant. :)

 

[ElanJo]

But what piece(s) of evidence do you have for believing that the planet was seeding by aliens? Please list them.

No, with regards to science books you are not called to take an authors word as gospel and run with it. I just told you why that is not the case. You can do the experiments yourself or at the very least you can look at the data on which the science books are based.

As for Africa, well now you're talking about religion and scripture. They are irrelevant.

BTW, do you now accept that you do believe (many) positive claims?

I will checkout any claim for myself before i go with it.

The seeding bit, well i have posted a link many times and it's by Credo Mutwa, the Reptillian Agenda, a guy that you said you have checked out.

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So your evidence is the views of 1 person, whose views are based on shamanic creation stories. That makes your beliefs no more valid than the person who believes in the views of a Priest or Pat Robertson. If that is all you have you actually don't have any evidence at all.

You're actually right about truth being the authority not authority being the truth - the ones here arguing that if 1000 scientists say X and 1 scientist says Y then X is true/should be believed are simply wrong (nearly every great scientist has been the 1)...it's all about the evidence. However, you completely go back on your own advice ("The truth should be the Authority, not authority being the truth") when you cite Mutwa as evidence.