Leader of EDL refused service in Selfridges

[urmston]

If you want to decide which customers you want to serve and which you don't it's probably best to start up your own shop, not get a job in someone else's,

 

[2sheikhs]

Good for the lad. Too few people have principles and are actually prepared to stand by them.

But he's not though is he Ammy? If he jacked the job in on principle, then yes, fair play to him. Some members of the public are twats. I take it if a jewish bus driver refused to allow people of a different faith on board, that would be acceptable?

We're not talking about an imaginary Jewish bus driver though are we.
This isn't a generalised, rhetorical 'what if'.
This is one real person's reaction to another actual real person.
A real person, who finds any member of the EDL repulsive and reacted to that

The "what ifs" in this are entirely relevant though. His job is to serve the customers of Selfridges regardless of their beliefs, however misguided. If he can't accept that then he should leave his position on principle.

 

[rickmcfc]

Good for the lad. Too few people have principles and are actually prepared to stand by them.

But he's not though is he Ammy? If he jacked the job in on principle, then yes, fair play to him. Some members of the public are twats. I take it if a jewish bus driver refused to allow people of a different faith on board, that would be acceptable?

We're not talking about an imaginary Jewish bus driver though are we.
This isn't a generalised, rhetorical 'what if'.
This is one real person's reaction to another actual real person.
A real person, who finds any member of the EDL repulsive and reacted to that

Based on your principles, I don't like people who wear to much make up, have brown hair and drink white wine. If I refuse to serve then in a shop does it make it right?

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Glad he got his job back
Tbh hope he gets a promotion
Trust the shithouse racist bastard to film it.

 

[Ammy]

But he's not though is he Ammy? If he jacked the job in on principle, then yes, fair play to him. Some members of the public are twats. I take it if a jewish bus driver refused to allow people of a different faith on board, that would be acceptable?

We're not talking about an imaginary Jewish bus driver though are we.
This isn't a generalised, rhetorical 'what if'.
This is one real person's reaction to another actual real person.
A real person, who finds any member of the EDL repulsive and reacted to that

Based on your principles, I don't like people who wear to much make up, have brown hair and drink white wine. If I refuse to serve then in a shop does it make it right?

Did you not understand the point I made?

You again are presenting rhetorical, generalisations.

 

[Phil1]

He wouldn't be served or welcome in my place either the horrible ****.

 

[tidyman]

What exactly would constitute being, "The other way round?"

Yes, clarification needed, I think.

If someone who was of black, Asian origin was refused to be served then this place would be crying out calling the person who refused to serve them a racist, and therefor sacked. Just because the person in question is the leader of a racist far right party then people on this forum think the behaviour is acceptable. Whilst i cant stand either Tommy Robinson or the EDL, someone in retail simply refusing to serve someone because they don't "like" someone is ridiculous. It's like me not serving someone in a Manchester United shirt.

But that isn't the other way round is it? The other way round suggests, the same scenario but in reverse. In your example, you don't actually say why the black or asain person would be refused. Which is quite an important detail in deciding if you have any sympathy for them or not. If they were refused simply because of their colour, then there would quite rightly be outrage. But that isn't, the other way round is it? If this geezer was refused because he was white, nobody but a fucking idiot would agree with it. That wasn't the reason though.

Without re-reading the whole thread, I think the vast majority are still saying they don't agree with him. Myself included for the record.

 

[malg]

If you want to decide which customers you want to serve and which you don't it's probably best to start up your own shop, not get a job in someone else's,

Yep. Have absolutely no idea how people on here can argue about this. Pellegrini's fault actually, as if we'd lost last night there wouldn't be so many 'bored' posters around.

 

[manchester blue]

We're not talking about an imaginary Jewish bus driver though are we.
This isn't a generalised, rhetorical 'what if'.
This is one real person's reaction to another actual real person.
A real person, who finds any member of the EDL repulsive and reacted to that

Based on your principles, I don't like people who wear to much make up, have brown hair and drink white wine. If I refuse to serve then in a shop does it make it right?

Did you not understand the point I made?

You again are presenting rhetorical, generalisations.

Ammy, the point is that 2Sheikhs thinks that too much make up is repulsive. Should he serve a person who repulses him whatever the reason. It's not a rhetorical question. There is an answer.

 

[Ammy]

Based on your principles, I don't like people who wear to much make up, have brown hair and drink white wine. If I refuse to serve then in a shop does it make it right?

Did you not understand the point I made?

You again are presenting rhetorical, generalisations.

Ammy, the point is that 2Sheikhs thinks that too much make up is repulsive. Should he serve a person who repulses him whatever the reason. It's not a rhetorical question. There is an answer.

No.
Wearing to much makeup does not make you a racist twat. Being a member of the EDL does.