Leaving 3 up for defending corners

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Grand Master Ram Rod

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The old Hughes tactic was back yesterday and fair play to Bobby for using it. It's miles better than overcrowding our own box with shrimps who don't know what they're doing, plus our breaks can be frightening when we win it.

Same all season please Roberto!
 
Can't believe RM couldn't see how unintelligent it was to have everyone crammed into the 6-yard box. Now if the ball gets cleared we've a good chance of picking it up and doing something with it.

Where were we playing where we scored twice from opposition corners?
 
Grand Master Ram Rod said:
The old Hughes tactic was back yesterday and fair play to Bobby for using it. It's miles better than overcrowding our own box with shrimps who don't know what they're doing, plus our breaks can be frightening when we win it.

Same all season please Roberto!
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not my cup of tea but mancini knows best

but we have goals from everywhere in the team and maybe thats the thinking this season from mancini
 
been saying for a while we should do this

next job is to make sure we send both Kompany and Lescott up for all corners - it does my head in when we regularly have one of them stood on the half way line with their finger up their arse when we have an attacking corner - after all they are two of our best headers of a ball?

what team could deal with and mark Kompany , Richards , Lescott , Yaya , Dzeko etc?
 
It also forces their big defenders to stay back meaning they are not scoring headers from corners.
 
Love it. Allows us to break quick, and gives the opposition the headache of having to leave 4 back capable of dealing with them..

Keep it up!
 
I think it's a tactic that Mancini will only use against big physical teams to keep their tall defenders out of our penalty area at set pieces
 
Lancet Fluke said:
I don't think he'll do this every week. Might see that tactic come back for the likes of Stoke.
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My thoughts exactly Stoke score a massive percentage of their goals from headers from corners or throw ins so if we pushed our forwards up their massive 7ft defenders wouldn't be such a threat to us
 
Blue Smarties said:
Lancet Fluke said:
I don't think he'll do this every week. Might see that tactic come back for the likes of Stoke.
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It's the perfect tactic vs Stoke?
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I can certainly see the sense in leaving our midgets up front against the likes of Stoke as it is almost certainly going to mean them keeping players who are taller than them back. Probably means not having players on the posts though which is a negative. There is no definitive right and wrong I suppose but personally I quite liked what we did yesterday.
 
MCFC 4 EVER said:
Lancet Fluke said:
I don't think he'll do this every week. Might see that tactic come back for the likes of Stoke.
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My thoughts exactly Stoke score a massive percentage of their goals from headers from corners or throw ins so if we pushed our forwards up their massive 7ft defenders wouldn't be such a threat to us
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Hughes actually did it first against Stoke with SWP, Robinho and Ireland. We beat them 3-0 IIRC.
 
[quote="Lancet Fluke]Probably means not having players on the posts though which is a negative.[/quote]

Interesting article about zonal defence at Barcelona. It suggests they don't leave players on the posts as it prevents them moving quickly into an offside trap once the first ball is cleared - not much comparison heightwise with Barca though :)

http://defensiveminded.wordpress.com/2011/08/07/barcelonas-zonal-marking-at-corners/
 
bluenova said:
Lancet Fluke said:
Probably means not having players on the posts though which is a negative.
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Interesting article about zonal defence at Barcelona. It suggests they don't leave players on the posts as it prevents them moving quickly into an offside trap once the first ball is cleared - not much comparison heightwise with Barca though :)

http://defensiveminded.wordpress.com/2011/08/07/barcelonas-zonal-marking-at-corners/
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That is interesting although the best bit of that article is the "rings" around the Barcelona defenders on the first photo.
 
MTAM said:
It also forces their big defenders to stay back meaning they are not scoring headers from corners.
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It doesn't have to be as any three or four staying don't have to be centre backs stood on the half way line just some that can hold up the attacking team until the rest get back. Good tactic to see, I hated it when we left nobody up from a corner.
 
bluenova said:
Lancet Fluke said:
Probably means not having players on the posts though which is a negative.
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Interesting article about zonal defence at Barcelona. It suggests they don't leave players on the posts as it prevents them moving quickly into an offside trap once the first ball is cleared - not much comparison heightwise with Barca though :)

http://defensiveminded.wordpress.com/2011/08/07/barcelonas-zonal-marking-at-corners/
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Against a premier league team like us, stoke or maybe chelsea, this is waaaaaaaaay less effective. Even homogeneous defenders like ours struggle to implement a zonal marking system at times.
 
MTAM said:
It also forces their big defenders to stay back meaning they are not scoring headers from corners.
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Surely it's the small, quick defenders who will stay back to mark our forwards?

I mean, we're not likely to score from a header on a quick break, are we?
 
I like the idea of players staying on the half way line and its nice to see Bobby has a plan B and is willing to be flexible , horses for courses though
 
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