Leeds United (A) Post Match Thread

vincent said:
We are but the reaction of some fans is getting pathetic. Reminds me of those Spanish knobs at Barca and Madrid who start waving white handkerchiefs when things start to get a bit difficult. Twats.
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Twats but serial winning twats
 
vmsuhail said:
Yes, but Dias, Torres, Ake and even Foden needs more time with the team.

Ederson
Walker---Dias----Laporte---Ake
-----------Fernandinho----------
----De Bruyne----BernardoSilva---
Sterling------Aguero-----Foden

That's a strong balanced side once it is fit and firing.
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Exactly, you also can't say Jesus is not a miss either, Aguero wouldn't have played the full game, he might not have started because this game was always going to be a battle of pressing. Cancello is also a miss because I think this was one game too many for Mendy and we seem more solid with Cancello on the left anyway.

Sterling being on the left, Mahrez on the right is a big change on it's own, add Jesus and Aguero(perhaps second half when they were tiring) and we win that game, they weren't that solid at the back.

I don't think we defended that badly apart from Mendy, so I wouldn't say it was too soon for Dias to start, he did well. Leeds will be creating far more chances than that against other teams. Liverpool gave up 3 goals lets not forget. The one we gave up was really just a keeper error from a corner, nothing to get too excited about.
 
pavelsrnicek said:
I appreciate the positivity but the reason most people are upset or worried is that last season we were brittle. We either won handsomely or dropped points, very few grind out wins. When we conceded we panicked.

We’ve started this season the exact same way. Fell apart after conceding against Leicester, fell apart after 30 minutes today. It’s the same failings time and time again. Not maintaining the press, not taking our chances, not capitalising in dominance and letting the opposition have chances without having to work for them. We look mentally weak. The team’s self belief has gone.

When Liverpool need a goal they grind the opposition until they score. Despite taking control of the final 15 minutes we never looked like scoring. No one driving us on. Our one world class midfielder spent the entire second half waving his arms in the air in frustration.

This season isn’t a reset after last season’s disappointment, it’s a continuing decline. People are making excuses but the fundamentals of this team aren’t there. We used to press relentlessly, be ruthless and fight to the end. Now our late goals are usually the icing in the cake or the killer goal for a 2 goal win. I can’t remember our last late winner in the league.
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You're upset because we've not changed unrecognisably from last season?

No shit! Bernardo just got back from an injury, Laporte came back from Covid a week ago. Dias started his first game today, Torres his first start today. Gundogan, Aguero, Jesus, Cancelo are all still out. We're catching up for having 6 weeks less preseason than other sides, we're trying to get the squad whole again.

Why did you think we were going to massively different straight away with all that's gone on?

I mean I'm sorry but what fucking world are you living in where we'd have a total reset from last season when we had a 3 week break and started with 8 players out and 4 new signings needing to be introduced?

You thought we'd just waltz through the opening month of the season with no strikers, with 2 new defenders settling in, with at least 3 or 4 starting players out?
 
Keeper! said:
People with your attitude piss me off, we are the richest club on the planet, have the best coach, best facilities, our owner demands success.

We are very, very poor and have been for a calendar year
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richest club, ah thats ok then we'll just go and buy the best players every window, become the new Real Madrid and be what everyone is forever calling us anyway, sounds good crack on sunshine
 
Neville Kneville said:
Look at how much running Walker did, just trying to fill holes. We are not athletic enough as a team.
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Yes, he runs a lot mostly because he is always out of position by a fews meters and misses crucial interception and keeps running around back to compencate.
 
flook said:
richest club, ah thats ok then we'll just go and buy the best players every window, become the new Real Madrid and be what everyone is forever calling us anyway, sounds good crack on sunshine
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You location is perfect
 
Pep , it is fair to say, knows more about football than any of us on here. But when your left back has had a stinker of a first half, been booked and then got ran ragged by a youngster, put on solely to run at him because he had a stinker of a first half, why did he not put Ake on earlier?
 
Keeper! said:
The champions league, what when we lost to Lyon with our best players on the bench, were they tired to?
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Yep that’s the campaign I’m referring to. What about the fact we had no pre season games?
 
Scottyboi said:
The body language of the team, lack of courage and energy that is making it clear something is really amiss.
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We were strongest team in the last fifteen minutes and i thought we fought until the end to win the game and there is absolutely nothing wrong with the courage of the majority of those players , they did look tired near the end but Leeds were dead on their feet as well it was non stop and end to end on a heavy pitch.
Dispointing result but not at all disappointed in our teams effort.
 
domalino said:
Bielsa said yesterday that Pep Guardiola ruined football, because he's so good and he had so much success that teams resorted to horrendous football in order to counter people adopting Pep's tacitcs.

I'm not sure if that's 100% true or just Bielsa going over the top in complimenting his friend, but I'm really starting to think Pep has ruined the Manchester City fan base.

I know that the Match thread and twitter are not necessarily 100% accurate portrayals of the fanbase but I seriously don't think many people on here actually enjoy football anymore. The levels of anger and angst that starts when the team sheet is announced and doesn't disappear unless we are 4-0 up is just unbearable.

Both our strikers are injured! Someone's going to have to play out of position. I've not been Mahrez's biggest fan over the 3 years he's been here but fucking hell guys he's not shit, he doesn't need to "Go back to North Africa" FFS because he didn't hold the ball up. He put a massive shift in, was the first one legging it back to defend just before he came off. The players pressed like lunatics in the first 30 minutes and maybe we're not fit enough to do that for the whole game yet because we had no preseason, but it showed the players are committed to Pep's football 100%.

We had it exceptionally easy for a couple of seasons, 198 points has never been done before, and won't be done again, but even in that centurions season we dropped points in 1/6 games. We had long spells where we weren't winning games. I don't remember there being so much animosity towards the players and Pep, I don't remember this sense of entitlement to an easy win and anything else is a travesty requiring players lined up against the wall or Pep getting replaced.

Leeds were really good. We saw that when the (apparently on a compeltely different plane to us) Liverpool side conceded 3 and could have conceded many more. BIelsa is an exceptional coach, Leeds will finish in the top 10 and take a few more scalps. They will take away all structure from the game and make it end to end madness against a lot of teams.

Unfortunately, in an absolute downpour, Ederson, who was excellent mostly, made 3 or 4 great saves and was the 2nd best keeper in the league at claiming crosses and corners last season made a mistake. They scored, we dropped a couple of points, it happens. Sterling should have ended the game, that's annoying but he is what he is, he helps us out a lot more than he hurts us.

Pep isn't upset post match, he's laughing and smiling. He wants the title more than anyone posting on here, he works harder for Manchester City than anyone, and he knows with 6 players out, against a really good side, no preseason, in an insane condensed season, sometimes you're going to drop a couple of points.

I'm not sure how to make this a more succinct point, but I just think quite a lot of our fans just need to fucking relax and stop living with this mindset where we have to win every single game we play while looking world class from 1-11 and having put the game to bed inside half an hour.

I'm sure the usual brigade will turn up and tell me to fuck off for being a happy clapper, but christ, in 2020, with a pandemic keeping us cooped up, if you're frothing at the mouth with anger from the line up being released on twitter to the full time whistle then I'm not sure what the point is.
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I agree with a lot of what you say. All things considered this wasn't a bad result. We've had no preseason, no strikers at the moment, other players missing, giving us little choice to play Mendy, and have lost a player who many think is the clubs greatest. Add to that a hectic schedule. I know it's a cliche, but we are going through a transition, Kompany has gone, Silva has gone, and this looks like Aguero's last season. Liverpool are in their peak at the moment, they're where we were a few seasons back. Getting the title off them is going to be very difficult, but if we can close the gap points wise, and show evidence we're heading in the right direction, and that the next season is going to be one where we're in strong contention, then we've done well. We've been spoilt, players like Kompany, Silva, Aguero, Yaya, etc, have served the club fantastically, but now they're all gone bar Aguero, and now its time for the new generation to come of age, the likes of Foden, Dias, Torres, with Sterling and De Bruyne as the experienced heads.
 
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