Leicester City - pre-match thread

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I really don't get this Leicester love in. The shit we get from all and sundry about sugar-daddy this, money that, Arabs, money bags City when these fuckers got away with royally fucking over the Football League and its members by going into administration to the tune of £30 million in 2002.

They were the reason the Football League brought in points deductions for clubs that conveniently fall into administration, to effectively restructure their debts. Leicester City FC was the last club to get away without the points deduction but they still got a shiny new stadium the same year they went under, kept their best players and paid them Premiership wages (thereby fucking over other well run Football League clubs) and only paid their "non-football" debtors 5p in the pound. These debtors included around 120 local businesses, of whom 29 went out of business. We're talking electricians, caterers, printers, cleaners, one-man bands, the corner shop, you name it. Non-playing staff redundancies were brutal, but they still managed to pay Denis Wise £25k a week to get them out of the Championship.

So many inaccuracies there I don't know where to start.

Your main errors:

1. It was nowhere near £30 million that was written off.
2. They have paid off in full the stadium loan.
3. They got rid of as many players as they could - external factors prevented more leaving.
4. They didn't pay Dennis Wise anything to get them out of the Championship.


The long version:


Firstly, I'd like to point out that I was one of the creditors when Leicester went bust. So I know what I'm talking about.

Leicester had just been relegated from the Premiership. Their 'plan' was to sell players and reduce the wage bill, so they'd be able to cope with the reduced income. But there was one big problem. ITV Digital, which had the football league broadcast contract, went bust towards the end of Leicester's relegation season. This reduced Leicester's income for their season in the second tier, but also had a big impact throughout English football - see here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1898021.stm and here: http://www.itsroundanditswhite.co.u...tv-digital-collapse-on-lower-league-football/ . There was less money around, so the transfer market went into a temporary depression that summer. Several of their top players like Tim Flowers and Matt Elliott were made available on free transfers, but no one wanted them. An offer was accepted for Muzzy Izzet, but he didn't want to move to Middlesbrough. As many players as possible were sold (9 in total), for a total of around £8 million, but most of the biggest wage earners stayed because no one would have them.


They signed two players (one was Nicky Summerbee), both on free transfers, and both played for no wages.

Dennis Wise, who you claim Leicester paid £25,000 a week to get them out of the championship, actually never played a game for Leicester in the second tier. He was sacked after assaulting a team-mate during pre-season. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2002/aug/03/newsstory.sport1

Once the season started and they still needed to cut costs, they sent out as many players on loan as possible. They played for much of the season without a goalkeeper on the bench because they'd sent two of their three keepers out on loan. Tim Flowers and Simon Royce were both loaned to Manchester City during that time.

The players agreed to defer part of their wages until the end of the season.

Still this wasn't enough, so they did a deal with their creditors (the major one being the American pension fund that loaned them the money for their stadium), to restructure the debts. This seemed set to happen when the sacking of Dennis Wise came back to haunt them. Wise's friend and agent Eric Hall (who was owed money by the club) wouldn't agree to the debt restructuring, and instead went to the courts with a winding up order. This action effectively forced the club into administration, to protect themselves.

After a few months in administration a consortium of local businessmen took over the club, and took on most of the debts. Much of the massive debts reported at the time were football debts that had to be paid in full (things like the value of players contracts), and the stadium loan. Contrary to what you seem to think, the stadium loan was taken on in full by the new consortium.
The inland revenue did a deal with the club where if they were promoted they would pay more of the outstanding tax that was due, so by being promoted that season they paid more tax.

Those who suffered most were smaller local businesses who didn't receive a penny, and the people who lost their jobs.
Despite getting promoted at the end of that season, they weren't able to pay money for players so relied on free signings and loanees, so went straight back down. The debts they still had (mainly for the stadium) led to their longest period outside the top flight, including their only relegation to the third tier.
 
I see in time honoured fashion, Blue Moon has turned our opponents into the second coming of Marco van Basten and AC Milan.

It's Leicester we are playing, right? Just checking.

This isn't about arrogance, this about having faith in a team that has one of the best home records across Europe over the last five years.

A team which is spearheaded by the best striker in the world, outside of a couple, and who is shitting goals once again.

A fired-up and fit-again Zabba, a conductor in Silva, and a goalkeeper who is on a par with anyone at present.

A home crowd who will be right up for it and, even with our tired legs, be on the front foot from the start.

All day, every day, it will be about us and not what the opposition do.

We turn up, and it doesn't matter if Leicester play the game of their lives, they will be chewed up and spat out in front of a watching public.

We'll score at least 3.

Best of luck to Leicester, for the rest of the season, but it's money time for us.
Stop sitting on the fence, do you think we'll win or not?
 
This defence is fucking shocking without Kompany end of errand!! If we don't get Vinny back and KEEP him back then this will be our undoing because watching them 3 clowns(whenever they play) masquerade as premiership defenders is giving me the Ertha's! And before I start to get the clean sheet last night bollocks..that was more out of luck and Hart than defensive quality. Also looking tired last night..I'm not sure if Yayas going to be up for it Saturday..if he isn't then it's possible them getting something. We need to tear into them from the off and let them worry about us..high tempo, quick passing and aggressive in the tackle. If so 3 or 4-1.
 
This defence is fucking shocking without Kompany end of errand!! If we don't get Vinny back and KEEP him back then this will be our undoing because watching them 3 clowns(whenever they play) masquerade as premiership defenders is giving me the Ertha's! And before I start to get the clean sheet last night bollocks..that was more out of luck and Hart than defensive quality. Also looking tired last night..I'm not sure if Yayas going to be up for it Saturday..if he isn't then it's possible them getting something. We need to tear into them from the off and let them worry about us..high tempo, quick passing and aggressive in the tackle. If so 3 or 4-1.

this fucking defence you are going about has conceded less goals than games played and 3 out of last 5 games without conceded...i know it's not the best but how the fuck is that shocking???..... i fucking dispair sometimes..
 
This defence is fucking shocking without Kompany end of errand!! If we don't get Vinny back and KEEP him back then this will be our undoing because watching them 3 clowns(whenever they play) masquerade as premiership defenders is giving me the Ertha's! And before I start to get the clean sheet last night bollocks..that was more out of luck and Hart than defensive quality. Also looking tired last night..I'm not sure if Yayas going to be up for it Saturday..if he isn't then it's possible them getting something. We need to tear into them from the off and let them worry about us..high tempo, quick passing and aggressive in the tackle. If so 3 or 4-1.


Shocking you say?

Perhaps the nature of some of the goals.

I will just point you in the direction of the actual stats, regardless of the narrative plenty want to swallow.

We are a couple goals shy of having the best defensive record in the Premier League, added to already scoring more than anyone else.

Quite an achievement considering the injuries to Vinny, Zabba, Clichy and Mangala this season.

Even more so, when we have come to call upon a defender new to this league and another whose legs are going.

Perhaps we should be like United, who are praised for their defensive soundness, ten men behind the ball and yet we are pretty much on a par when it comes to conceding.
 
Leicester will be coming for a point they played for 1 at home so will not do anything different away! Keep a clean sheet and we win the game
 
Yes!!!!! Fucking shocking!!! It's like watching the keystone kops at times. I go to games, I know what I see with my own eyes and them 3 centre halves are a fucking joke!! In my opinion..but for what I've seen on here, some of us can't have our own opinion before the keyboard warriors set out on trying to make them look like cunts!
 
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