Leighton Baines

[pudge]

I have seen every game, and i cant recall one way or another, and the stats dont show hes that bad either but our defence record over the last two seasons show the contrary

Yeah, a defence that has Kompany, Richards, Clichy, Zabaleta, Lescott who are all good DEFENDERS.

I'm sorry but you are the first person I know that doesn't see fault in Kolarov's defensive abilities.

I don't see many faults either. "He doesn't defend very well" isn't a very good analysis.

The only weakness he has is that he is not as quick as full backs like Clichy and Cole, but positioning, reading the game and tackling are just as important. By the end of the season, Mancini settled on Clichy who was outstanding, but for much of the season there wasn't much between the players.

His tackling percentage is in the 70's% which isn't that bad, but watching him he doesn't make that many tackles, not as many as Clichy in the same position in my opinion.

His positioning is poor also, and after he goes forward he takes an age to get back, I've seen these characteristics in the flesh far too many times

 

[Marvin]

Yeah, a defence that has Kompany, Richards, Clichy, Zabaleta, Lescott who are all good DEFENDERS.

I'm sorry but you are the first person I know that doesn't see fault in Kolarov's defensive abilities.

I don't see many faults either. "He doesn't defend very well" isn't a very good analysis.

The only weakness he has is that he is not as quick as full backs like Clichy and Cole, but positioning, reading the game and tackling are just as important. By the end of the season, Mancini settled on Clichy who was outstanding, but for much of the season there wasn't much between the players.

His tackling percentage is in the 70's% which isn't that bad, but watching him he doesn't make that many tackles, not as many as Clichy in the same position in my opinion.

His positioning is poor also, and after he goes forward he takes an age to get back, I've seen these characteristics in the flesh far too many times

Disagree. He gets forward a lot, and is the best crosser of the ball at the club, and amongst the best in the Premiership. Up to the rest of the defence to fill in when he's attacking.

If he was so weak defensively, why weren't we conceding goals?

 

[pudge]

I don't see many faults either. "He doesn't defend very well" isn't a very good analysis.

The only weakness he has is that he is not as quick as full backs like Clichy and Cole, but positioning, reading the game and tackling are just as important. By the end of the season, Mancini settled on Clichy who was outstanding, but for much of the season there wasn't much between the players.

His tackling percentage is in the 70's% which isn't that bad, but watching him he doesn't make that many tackles, not as many as Clichy in the same position in my opinion.

His positioning is poor also, and after he goes forward he takes an age to get back, I've seen these characteristics in the flesh far too many times

Disagree. He gets forward a lot, and is the best crosser of the ball at the club, and amongst the best in the Premiership. Up to the rest of the defence to fill in when he's attacking.

If he was so weak defensively, why weren't we conceding goals?

Because of the rest of the back line.

And once again, yes he's good going forward but he's a DEFENDER. And if the first good thing you say about a DEFENDER is that he's good going forward/crossing the ball, then alarm bells should sound.

 

[brad147690]

Man City already have a fantastic crosser in Kolarov. Baines really isn't needed.

 

[stony]

 

[kennycar]

have you got one for this year though?

 

[zeven]

His tackling percentage is in the 70's% which isn't that bad, but watching him he doesn't make that many tackles, not as many as Clichy in the same position in my opinion.

His positioning is poor also, and after he goes forward he takes an age to get back, I've seen these characteristics in the flesh far too many times

Disagree. He gets forward a lot, and is the best crosser of the ball at the club, and amongst the best in the Premiership. Up to the rest of the defence to fill in when he's attacking.

If he was so weak defensively, why weren't we conceding goals?

Because of the rest of the back line.

And once again, yes he's good going forward but he's a DEFENDER. And if the first good thing you say about a DEFENDER is that he's good going forward/crossing the ball, then alarm bells should sound.

I dont want to be an ass here, but arent the most important thing that we dont concede?

i mean if the defence still work just fine with Kolorov going forward and provide the strikers with world class crosses, i dont see any problem?

Your argument is flawed in that way. we dont concede more with kolorov so why make a point about his defending, when the defence works?

 

[stony]

have you got one for this year though?

I'd have posted it if I had. Just thought it was an interesting comparison to someone widely regarded as the best left back in the country.

 

[pudge]

Disagree. He gets forward a lot, and is the best crosser of the ball at the club, and amongst the best in the Premiership. Up to the rest of the defence to fill in when he's attacking.

If he was so weak defensively, why weren't we conceding goals?

Because of the rest of the back line.

And once again, yes he's good going forward but he's a DEFENDER. And if the first good thing you say about a DEFENDER is that he's good going forward/crossing the ball, then alarm bells should sound.

I dont want to be an ass here, but arent the most important thing that we dont concede?

i mean if the defence still work just fine with Kolorov going forward and provide the strikers with world class crosses, i dont see any problem?

Your argument is flawed in that way. we dont concede more with kolorov so why make a point about his defending, when the defence works?

Because INDIVIDUALLY he is poor defensively

 

[zeven]

Because of the rest of the back line.

And once again, yes he's good going forward but he's a DEFENDER. And if the first good thing you say about a DEFENDER is that he's good going forward/crossing the ball, then alarm bells should sound.

I dont want to be an ass here, but arent the most important thing that we dont concede?

i mean if the defence still work just fine with Kolorov going forward and provide the strikers with world class crosses, i dont see any problem?

Your argument is flawed in that way. we dont concede more with kolorov so why make a point about his defending, when the defence works?

Because INDIVIDUALLY he is poor defensively

I get that, but still our defensive record prove its not of major concern, and what he provides in the attacking role make up for it.

 

[pudge]

I dont want to be an ass here, but arent the most important thing that we dont concede?

i mean if the defence still work just fine with Kolorov going forward and provide the strikers with world class crosses, i dont see any problem?

Your argument is flawed in that way. we dont concede more with kolorov so why make a point about his defending, when the defence works?

Because INDIVIDUALLY he is poor defensively

I get that, but still our defensive record prove its not of major concern, and what he provides in the attacking role make up for it.

So you get that he is poor defensively?

Because that's my point....

 

[zeven]

Because INDIVIDUALLY he is poor defensively

I get that, but still our defensive record prove its not of major concern, and what he provides in the attacking role make up for it.

So you get that he is poor defensively?

Because that's my point....

hehe, no i get your point. That i dont fully agree with because our defence as a whole works fine with him in it.

I agree Clichy is better defensivly not by much but enough to keep him on the bench in the majority of games.

 

[Seosa]

Still can't believe mugs like Marvin are blowing the Kolarov trumpet, his greatest asset is his passion but Gael is by far the superior player. As I mentioned with Baines, Kolarov again comes 2nd, and you know Baines' dead balls are reliable and affective unlike the false hysteria over Kolarov.

 

[Marvin]

Mugs? I am a blue remember:(

 

[Seosa]

Mugs? I am a blue remember:(

Calm down I just disagree with some of your opinions, ;)

 

[FantasyIreland]

Everton allegedly sniffing around AJ.

Possible swap deal to be had?

 

[scenecreamer]

I like Kolarov. I don't see any need to replace him. Hell, Lescott has conceded more goals than Kolarov...

 

[Davs 19]

Still can't believe mugs like Marvin are blowing the Kolarov trumpet, his greatest asset is his passion but Gael is by far the superior player. As I mentioned with Baines, Kolarov again comes 2nd, and you know Baines' dead balls are reliable and affective unlike the false hysteria over Kolarov.

This. There's a reason that Kola only started 12 league games. Baines is a far better option IMO but I can't see it happening.

 

[FantasyIreland]

15m to the Rags being reported with the side story that Moyes will see this as a transfer too far and he'll be seeking pastures new,Spuds anyone??

To think we spunked another 4m on Kolarov.......

 

[City Raider]

strange one as evra has been capt